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Re: westjet to yzf

Post by Changes in Latitudes » Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:57 pm

Four1oh wrote:
YOWTXR wrote:HMMMMMMM....This is a little too convinient. WJ pulling on up in YZF, and now rumours circulating of Canadian North's economic woes. Coincidence??

I think we're all open to speculation on this one.

YOWTXR-

I'm open to your speculation on this one, since you failed to expand on wtf you actually mean by the above statement. What's your conspiracy? Westjet is able to destroy a competitor merely by announcing a new destination? Westjet doesn't even need to fly there to compete?!!! WOW! LOL! :roll: :lol: Am I the only one who thinks this is the funniest post in a long time? :lol:
As he's typing he's hearing a voice in his head yelling at him. It's the only way I can reason through it.
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Re: westjet to yzf

Post by Fatass » Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:35 pm

loopy wrote:I hear Jazz is pulling out of YZF. I think WJ is just filling the void. Nobody goes north of there excepy CN and FA.
Is there any truth to the Jazz pulling out of YZF rumour?
Any links to press releases would be appreciated.
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Re: westjet to yzf

Post by Donald » Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:14 pm

Fatass wrote: Is there any truth to the Jazz pulling out of YZF rumour?
Any links to press releases would be appreciated.
Think it's just a rumour since their loads look decent, but tomorrow could be a problem for the RJ since it's -41 right now. What's the cutoff again, -35 or -40?
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Re: westjet to yzf

Post by Fatass » Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:09 pm

-40 seems to be the cutoff
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Re: westjet to yzf

Post by swordfish » Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:10 pm

It's -40. The RJ took a hit last winter leaving many passengers scrambling for alternatives. We had many consecutive days at/below 40 and there were no RJ flights for that time. If my memory serves me correctly, we had almost 2 weeks below 40 at some time of the day.
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Re: westjet to yzf

Post by RatherBeFlyingInCanada » Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:28 pm

swordfish wrote:It's -40. The RJ took a hit last winter leaving many passengers scrambling for alternatives. We had many consecutive days at/below 40 and there were no RJ flights for that time. If my memory serves me correctly, we had almost 2 weeks below 40 at some time of the day.
Pile them into a bunch of Navajos. Edmonton to Yellowknife in a PA31 would be a sweet run.
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Re: westjet to yzf

Post by Hoov » Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:00 pm

RatherBeFlyingInCanada wrote:
swordfish wrote:It's -40. The RJ took a hit last winter leaving many passengers scrambling for alternatives. We had many consecutive days at/below 40 and there were no RJ flights for that time. If my memory serves me correctly, we had almost 2 weeks below 40 at some time of the day.
Pile them into a bunch of Navajos. Edmonton to Yellowknife in a PA31 would be a sweet run.
Haha a sweet run for who?
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Re: westjet to yzf

Post by swordfish » Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:42 pm

Passengers just LOVE them 'Ho's. We saw that at Buffalo Narrows, then again at Peace Air...
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Re: westjet to yzf

Post by Niteflyer » Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:17 pm

Have to weigh in on this one.
It isn't about the cold weather, it isn't about leg length, aircraft type, koolaid, nothing.
People will always buy the cheapest ticket to get to Edmonton.
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Re: westjet to yzf

Post by M/T » Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:31 pm

the rj couldn't move it's flaps after leaving the airplane parked outside overnight earlier this week. this is the some of the most consistently cold weather i've seen in yellowknife since i've been up here. i beleive the aircraft was actually parked with the flaps in the t/o config and it did a departure. after not being able to select the flaps up they returned to land at yzf. this is second hand info. anyone verify?

i think some of the problems the rj has with the cold is that the same aircraft that gets parked outside overnight started it's day in the american south or on the east or west coast. lots of moisture is collected on all the moving parts and is now ready to freeze. when compared to FA, their airplanes operate sub zero all day long and stay cold soaked (not cold soak in the wet wing sense but in the entire airframe not fluctuating temperatures every day)

just a hunch though...more fodder for the post


--can someone write a glossary for me? whats 7F and 5T and some more of the avcan jargon hitting the streams here?
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Re: westjet to yzf

Post by M/T » Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:38 pm

when aircan cancels it's rj flight for three or more days in a row, why can't they quickly send up a larger aircraft twice a week to take care of all the stranded pax. one quick burn up here with an a320 should be able to take the load off and show loyalty to the customers.
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Re: westjet to yzf

Post by ODA » Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:58 pm

How would they load there passengers????
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Re: westjet to yzf

Post by Inverted2 » Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:15 am

M/T wrote:the rj couldn't move it's flaps after leaving the airplane parked outside overnight earlier this week. this is the some of the most consistently cold weather i've seen in yellowknife since i've been up here. i beleive the aircraft was actually parked with the flaps in the t/o config and it did a departure. after not being able to select the flaps up they returned to land at yzf. this is second hand info. anyone verify?

i think some of the problems the rj has with the cold is that the same aircraft that gets parked outside overnight started it's day in the american south or on the east or west coast. lots of moisture is collected on all the moving parts and is now ready to freeze. when compared to FA, their airplanes operate sub zero all day long and stay cold soaked (not cold soak in the wet wing sense but in the entire airframe not fluctuating temperatures every day)

just a hunch though...more fodder for the post


--can someone write a glossary for me? whats 7F and 5T and some more of the avcan jargon hitting the streams here?
The RJ flaps and cold weather don't mix. Jazz has flap problems on a daily basis, especially with the cold weather we are having out west.
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Re: westjet to yzf

Post by Human Factor » Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:40 am

M/T wrote:

--can someone write a glossary for me? whats 7F and 5T and some more of the avcan jargon hitting the streams here?
7F = First Air
5T = Canadian North

IATA Airline Codes:

http://www.travel-images.com/airline-codes-ab.html

That list might be a little out of date:
M3 - WestJet - Canada - Twelve 737s serve 11 cities in western Canada
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Re: westjet to yzf

Post by kevinsky18 » Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:28 am

M/T wrote:when aircan cancels it's rj flight for three or more days in a row, why can't they quickly send up a larger aircraft twice a week to take care of all the stranded pax. one quick burn up here with an a320 should be able to take the load off and show loyalty to the customers.
I would go even further yet. Jazz was booked full last year until these cold whether delays started pissing people off.

It's a long run, certainly longer than YYC - YVR or YYC - YLW and yet I've been on many of those flights in a nice A-320 with DVD player ect.

So why after having a year of experience with the YZF cold and knowing you could fill a A-320 if you had one on the run why on earth not switch perminantly to the A-320 for YZF??
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Re: westjet to yzf

Post by Just another canuck » Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:54 am

kevinsky18 wrote:why on earth not switch perminantly to the A-320 for YZF??
Because people north of 60 aren't good enough to ride in that kind of luxury. Duh! :mrgreen:
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Re: westjet to yzf

Post by swordfish » Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:07 pm

people north of 60 aren't good enough to ride in that kind of luxury
It's not that at all.

It's the fact that up here, all real pilots have their sticks in the center, and we don't have to wave them from side to side to get the job done right the first time.

'Tho, I have to admit...at least the 'bus can take all the baggage that was checked through :lol:
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Re: westjet to yzf

Post by ettw » Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:52 pm

HuD 91gt wrote:
FICU wrote:5Ts's woes are due to the price of oil.
And the fact that it hit a 4 year low yesterday at under $40 a barrel? :p
The peculiar thing about our fuel up here in Nunavut is that it is all purchased by the government in bulk and I believe it was purchased when the price of oil on the market was very high but not at peak. So even though the prices for petroleum products down south will reflect the change in price at the well, we have to wait until fall of 09 to see our prices drop (hopefully).

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