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Antarctic acident?

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Does anyone know who the operator of this Basler BT-67 is? Borek?

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20090105/119375471.html

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Man oh man..

Sure glad to hear that the crew are ok..

Maybe that old girl was destined to rest her soul on the ice..

Just over a year ago..

http://forums.jetphotos.net/showthread.php?t=43198
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ya - i think someone may have their wires crossed - don't think it's Borek's machines.

Remember, Borek's not the only Canadian company operating Baslers down on the Ice.

Enterprise operates a couple for the russians.

Me thinks Aviation Safety.net should get the facts straight before "blogging".
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I'm not so sure. The source of the information at the bottom of the page is the article xkbal posted at the top of the thread and has no owner information in it.

There are a handful of Canadian registered Baslers running around and a couple of them end up in Antarctica once in a while.
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This article (translated by google from Russian) mentions a Canadian crew.
In Antarctica, the plane crashed, feeding international expedition
In Antarctica, on Monday crashed aircraft on board which the Russian polar explorer Andrew Karygin and three members of the Canadian crew. All on board are alive, said the Russian President's Special Representative for International Cooperation in the Arctic and Antarctic, State Duma deputy Artur Chilingarov.

«Crew and our polar otdelalis happily, but the aircraft recovery is not», - said «Interfax» Artur Chilingarov.

According to Chilingarov, BT-67 aircraft «Basler» served polar Today he flew to the Russian station «Novolazarevskaya» Antarctica. He flew to vezdehodam who were some 300 km from the base at 74 degrees south latitude and 11 degrees east longitude.

«Because of poor visibility plane crashed into a mountain at 3200 meters - he has a serious engine, propeller, in general, the restoration of the ship is not», - Chilingarov said.

As for the crew and Andrew Karygina, fortunately, they have not been affected, adding President's Special Representative.

Chilingarov, also said that such aircraft in Antarctica, only two, and it is on this machine he was going to fly round trip expedition to Antarctica next week. «But, in any event, January 12, we are departing from Moscow, and we intend to implement the program of the expedition», - Chilingarov said. «Is that it will make some adjustments», - he added.
Link: (Russian) http://www.newsland.ru/News/Detail/id/3 ... dkTzN70liw
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It was C-GEAJ

Operated by Enterprise.
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wookie wrote:It was C-GEAJ

Operated by Enterprise.
According to this it is Borek
http://avherald.com/h?article=412e3363&opt=0
Accident: Kenn Borek DC3T at Antarctica on Jan 5th 2009, crash landed on mountain
By Simon Hradecky, created Monday, Jan 5th 2009 23:39Z, last updated Monday, Jan 5th 2009 23:43Z

A Kenn Borek Air Basler BT-67 (modified Douglas DC-3), most likely registration C-GJKB performing a supply flight within the British led ICECAP Antarctica project, crash landed on a 3200 meter mountain in Antarctica. The airplane should have delivered spare parts for cross country vehicles. All 3 crew and one Russian explorer survived the accident and were flown out by another airplane. The airplane sustained severe damage and is reported beyond repair.

There are conflicting reports, that the airplane may have entered poor visibility and performed a controlled flight into terrain, while other reports say, the crew lost their situational awareness and direction and were forced to perform an emergency landing.

ICECAP is using one of the two BT-67s of Kenn Borek Air, C-GJKB. The other is C-FMKB. A third BT-67 owned by the Alfred Wegner Institude, C-GAWI, is frequently used for Antarctica projects as well.


Maybe JC knows what is going on???
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rum-. wrote:
wookie wrote:It was C-GEAJ

Operated by Enterprise.
According to this it is Borek
http://avherald.com/h?article=412e3363&opt=0
Accident: Kenn Borek DC3T at Antarctica on Jan 5th 2009, crash landed on mountain
By Simon Hradecky, created Monday, Jan 5th 2009 23:39Z, last updated Monday, Jan 5th 2009 23:43Z

A Kenn Borek Air Basler BT-67 (modified Douglas DC-3), most likely registration C-GJKB performing a supply flight within the British led ICECAP Antarctica project, crash landed on a 3200 meter mountain in Antarctica. The airplane should have delivered spare parts for cross country vehicles. All 3 crew and one Russian explorer survived the accident and were flown out by another airplane. The airplane sustained severe damage and is reported beyond repair.

There are conflicting reports, that the airplane may have entered poor visibility and performed a controlled flight into terrain, while other reports say, the crew lost their situational awareness and direction and were forced to perform an emergency landing.

ICECAP is using one of the two BT-67s of Kenn Borek Air, C-GJKB. The other is C-FMKB. A third BT-67 owned by the Alfred Wegner Institude, C-GAWI, is frequently used for Antarctica projects as well.


Maybe JC knows what is going on???
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yep - it was Enterprise - shame - good thing everyone got out safely though - heard there were just some slight injuries.

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Considering C-GJKB is doing a survey out of Casey right now, I HIGHLY doubt that they would be carrying spare supplies for British vehicles, as much as I'm sure they'd love to pull the survey equipment out JUST to move some spare parts...

Feel bad for Enterprise,
Glad everyone got out (relatively) unscathed
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I HIGHLY doubt that they would be carrying spare supplies for British vehicles
No doubt

there is no way in hell a dc-3 could carry a statistically significant amount of spare parts for a British vehicle. a c-130 would be better suited in that application
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rum-. wrote:
wookie wrote:It was C-GEAJ

Operated by Enterprise.
According to this it is Borek
http://avherald.com/h?article=412e3363&opt=0
Accident: Kenn Borek DC3T at Antarctica on Jan 5th 2009, crash landed on mountain
By Simon Hradecky, created Monday, Jan 5th 2009 23:39Z, last updated Monday, Jan 5th 2009 23:43Z

A Kenn Borek Air Basler BT-67 (modified Douglas DC-3), most likely registration C-GJKB performing a supply flight within the British led ICECAP Antarctica project, crash landed on a 3200 meter mountain in Antarctica. The airplane should have delivered spare parts for cross country vehicles. All 3 crew and one Russian explorer survived the accident and were flown out by another airplane. The airplane sustained severe damage and is reported beyond repair.

There are conflicting reports, that the airplane may have entered poor visibility and performed a controlled flight into terrain, while other reports say, the crew lost their situational awareness and direction and were forced to perform an emergency landing.

ICECAP is using one of the two BT-67s of Kenn Borek Air, C-GJKB. The other is C-FMKB. A third BT-67 owned by the Alfred Wegner Institude, C-GAWI, is frequently used for Antarctica projects as well.


Maybe JC knows what is going on???
Looks as though they have re-vamped their orginal statement - perhaps they found out now that it was Enterprise.
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Sorry, but, yes, it was Enterprise's machine.
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Any new news on this? All I can find is the same story over and over again by doing a search and all it says is that everybody is ok and got picked up by a second plane. Maybe someone has some inside info they can share?
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also anxiously waiting news on the crew.
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Here is the problem with news. At the top of this map, halfwayish between Neumeyer, and Maitri, is Novo, and Blue One, where airplane #1 is.

Down by the M in Maps of the World Dot Com is where a second aircraft sometimes is. Or occasionally by the first A in Antarctic Peninsula. More often than not, it is doing a survey near each dot on the edge of the coast. Antarctica is big, planes are not fast, fuel is rare. Aircraft will arrive as soon as they safely can.

Since aircraft use mostly irridium to communicate down south, vs HF radio, it is hard for news services to find anything other than through press releases. I would expect that contact with TC, TSB, Russian authorities, an arranging rescue, maintenance evaluation, replacement aircraft, and interviewing the crew would be foremost on the minds of those who are in position to issue press releases.
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If in fact it was Enterprise this would be number 2 for this aircraft would it not? Seems to me they pranged this puppy once before down there.
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N2 wrote:If in fact it was Enterprise this would be number 2 for this aircraft would it not? Seems to me they pranged this puppy once before down there.

Well the other Enterprise Basler, C-GEAI, was damaged back in 2003 down there. Is that what you're thinking of?

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Enterpri ... 0608716/M/
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linecrew wrote:
N2 wrote:If in fact it was Enterprise this would be number 2 for this aircraft would it not? Seems to me they pranged this puppy once before down there.

Well the other Enterprise Basler, C-GEAI, was damaged back in 2003 down there. Is that what you're thinking of?

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Enterpri ... 0608716/M/
Actually, I think the one in 2003 was a case of the wind picking up the airplane when it was parked and putting it back down in a different spot.

I beleive they had an incident though 2 years ago whilst landing and damaged a ski and prop - not sure the exact circumstances on that one - they had a load of tourists on it when it happened from what I recall.

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N2 wrote:If in fact it was Enterprise this would be number 2 for this aircraft would it not? Seems to me they pranged this puppy once before down there.

Yes could very well be the one I am thinking of.
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Well, it is amazing how much you guys got wrong in this. Including where bases are on that map and where they operate. The only thing some got right is that it was Enterprise Airlines, though that is actually wrong as well as they are now ALCI Aviation Ltd. It was GEAJ, not GEAI or GAWI, the other two they operate down there. The 3 onboard crew were fine though one had some minor injuries. Last I heard from the operator it will be salvaged.
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CADORS Number: 2009O0047

The ALCI Aviation Ltd. Douglas DC-3-C Basler turbo-conversion aircraft (C-GEAJ) was on a [type of flight rules flight not reported] cargo flight from Novolazarevskaya Station (70º49'62ºS 11º38'22"E) to Tony Camp (74º04'56"S 10º54'28"E, about 194NM south of Novo., both in Antarctica), transporting spare parts for the cross-country vehicles of a British expedition in Antarctica. The aircraft was flown to destination without incident, where it circled the camp twice for inspection fly-bys of the field. The aircraft was on a trial approach run, during which the contrast was poor and conditions were exacerbated by a sudden drop in visibility. During the approach run, the aircraft struck the ground and bounced twice before sliding to a stop. Damage (on initial inspection) included both propellers, both engines, flaps and possible landing gear damage.

Please note that for the most part, CADORS reports contain preliminary, unconfirmed data which can be subject to change.
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