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Re: Professionalism

Post by Sulako » Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:22 pm

I think you are mistaking "professional" for "absolutely humorless".
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Re: Professionalism

Post by HS-74 » Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:12 pm

Along the same lines...

I once heard ATC ask someone to maintain xxx kts and he replied "we are dropping the anchor"

Kinda "different"
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Re: Professionalism

Post by Just another canuck » Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:24 pm

HS-74 wrote:Along the same lines...

I once heard ATC ask someone to maintain xxx kts and he replied "we are dropping the anchor"

Kinda "different"
:D I kinda like that one actually. What about "Got him on the fish finder." Nothing wrong with that, is there?
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Re: Professionalism

Post by Flybabe » Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:36 pm

Egads...
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Re: Professionalism

Post by heavymetal » Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:01 pm

I personally enjoy testing to see what the level of professionalism is out there on any given day by meowing on 6/7 and seeing how many people reply. Its absolutely disgusting some days I tell ya, you'll get the same people all day long.
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Re: Professionalism

Post by Intentional Left Bank » Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:40 pm

I'm a firm believer in using only approved phraseology in responding to clearances, instructions or stating intentions. But I think there is room for humour in responding to a request such as that, particularly when traffic is light. "Thar she blows" is not the same as "on the slide to one-nine-oh". That said, I don't normally respond verbally to a squawk ident request.
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Re: Professionalism

Post by Offset » Tue Jun 02, 2009 9:04 pm

If its light traffic I have no problem with some humour on the frequency, provided it's tastefull. Always remember if you take life too seriously you won't get out alive. If the frequency is busy park the jokes, and keep the communications short and sweet. My favorite is "we'll pedal harder" after telling an aircraft to keep the speed up on approach.
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Re: Professionalism

Post by ahramin » Tue Jun 02, 2009 9:21 pm

Intentional Left Bank wrote:I'm a firm believer in using only approved phraseology in responding to clearances, instructions or stating intentions. But I think there is room for humour in responding to a request such as that, particularly when traffic is light. "Thar she blows" is not the same as "on the slide to one-nine-oh". That said, I don't normally respond verbally to a squawk ident request.
+ 1, word for word.
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Re: Professionalism

Post by P-50 » Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:45 am

"palmerpilot " neato eh!
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Re: Professionalism

Post by Prairie Chicken » Wed Jun 03, 2009 4:24 am

If its light traffic I have no problem with some humour on the frequency, provided it's tastefull. Always remember if you take life too seriously you won't get out alive. If the frequency is busy park the jokes, and keep the communications short and sweet.
I agree. Add to that, you never ever know who may have to pull those tapes & listen to what is said at a later date, so empasis on the tastefull!
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Re: Professionalism

Post by stopsquawk » Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:31 am

ATC: "Keep yur speed up"

Pilot: "Giddyup"
Intentional Left Bank wrote:I'm a firm believer in using only approved phraseology in responding to clearances, instructions or stating intentions. But I think there is room for humour in responding to a request such as that, particularly when traffic is light. "Thar she blows" is not the same as "on the slide to one-nine-oh". That said, I don't normally respond verbally to a squawk ident request.
Actually, like any other ATC instruction or request, you should reply with your call sign. That way ATC know it's the right target identing. You could, however, substitute your callsign with the phrase "Thar she blows".
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Re: Professionalism

Post by 206 » Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:43 am

I can't stand when people are too uptight on the radio. If traffic is light, there's no need to sound like a robot.
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Re: Professionalism

Post by MUSKEG » Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:51 am

Is it not proper to lower your voice and kind of put a rasp to it. Start all comments with ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
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Re: Professionalism

Post by Jerricho » Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:32 am

stopsquawk wrote:ATC: "Keep yur speed up"

Pilot: "Giddyup"

Can neither confirm nor deny, but a phrase that may have been heard in the airspace of a dinky little island just off the coast of France:

ATC: "No ATC speed restrictions.....GLF"

"Roger, GLF"

Points for first correct answer opened.

(I may have to start using this one for our Green Machine friends)
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Re: Professionalism

Post by wannabatp » Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:03 am

Jerricho wrote:
stopsquawk wrote:ATC: "Keep yur speed up"

Pilot: "Giddyup"

Can neither confirm nor deny, but a phrase that may have been heard in the airspace of a dinky little island just off the coast of France:

ATC: "No ATC speed restrictions.....GLF"

"Roger, GLF"

Points for first correct answer opened.

(I may have to start using this one for our Green Machine friends)

Go Like F*%K?
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Re: Professionalism

Post by Jerricho » Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:09 am

Correct.
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Re: Professionalism

Post by stopsquawk » Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:59 pm

Jerricho wrote:
stopsquawk wrote:ATC: "Keep yur speed up"

Pilot: "Giddyup"

Can neither confirm nor deny, but a phrase that may have been heard in the airspace of a dinky little island just off the coast of France:

ATC: "No ATC speed restrictions.....GLF"

"Roger, GLF"

Points for first correct answer opened.

(I may have to start using this one for our Green Machine friends)
Just to get this straight, would that be spoken as "Golf Lima Foxtrot"? or just a vernacular "GEEELEFF"?
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Re: Professionalism

Post by No Conflict » Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:49 pm

Jeeez people lighten up... flying in and out of YYZ all freakin day, it's refreshing to hear something funny.... breaks it up a little..... those guys who are all uptight are the ones that are laughed at by everyone else...

We can be professional AND have a good time, you know....
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Re: Professionalism/phraseology

Post by Big Pistons Forever » Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:52 pm

One slow but nasty winter West Coast day ATC asked me how the ride was. Without really thinking I said "well actually it really sucks". I guess I made the controllers day as he seemed to take great delight in reporting to every new plane that checked in that a C421 had reported the ride "quote sucked unquote" :lol:
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Re: Professionalism/phraseology

Post by xsbank » Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:11 am

To me, when I hear the five-letter ident (Cessna 172 Charlie Aaarrrggghhh!) or some tyro talking slang or using inappropriate words or phraseology I immediately mark him down in my tiny notebook as an amateur.

Just think of a situation where the tribunal is reviewing the tapes and they get YOU saying 'Tally ho' or some other mindless thing, on the tape, in front of your peers and ultimately the unwashed hordes of media.

Professionalism is an attitude.

Besides, you are rarely as funny in person as you are in your own mind.
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Re: Professionalism/phraseology

Post by Rowdy » Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:55 am

I'm surprised as to how many people dont use anything even remotely close to correct phraeseology. It doesnt bug me at all, but it sure makes you realise where this industry has gone..

Like Niner. How often do you hear someone call with that? Or decimal. I know I know..

And I cant say much as I've thrown the occasional giggity into twenty six seven calls and said some silly things on company as well. But crisp, clear, correct radio calls always sound good in my opinion
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Re: Professionalism/phraseology

Post by Flying Low » Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:00 am

C'mon people. We all know it's not a fish finder. It's a metal detector! :)
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Re: Professionalism/phraseology

Post by fortis risk » Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:15 am

It does sound entirely unprofessional, unnecessary and amateur. Further most of the comments aren't funny and seem funny only to the idiot making them.
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Re: Professionalism/phraseology

Post by Just another canuck » Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:27 am

fortis risk wrote:It does sound entirely unprofessional, unnecessary and amateur. Further most of the comments aren't funny and seem funny only to the idiot making them.
You're right about that... although, if you're two crew, you can usually giggle with each other. Makes the cockpit a little less sterile.

I think as long as it's not congested, a little humour isn't a bad thing... but like fortis said, most of the time the only one who finds it humourous is the one making the call.... and possibly the guy/gal beside them.
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Re: Professionalism/phraseology

Post by trey kule » Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:48 pm

To me, when I hear the five-letter ident (Cessna 172 Charlie Aaarrrggghhh!) or some tyro talking slang or using inappropriate words or phraseology I immediately mark him down in my tiny notebook as an amateur.

Just think of a situation where the tribunal is reviewing the tapes and they get YOU saying 'Tally ho' or some other mindless thing, on the tape, in front of your peers and ultimately the unwashed hordes of media.

Professionalism is an attitude.
Couldnt agree with you more. Humor is one thing. Mindless one off's are another.
I have found there is a direction correlation between the quality of a pilot and their professionalism on the radio.
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