>12,566 Multi Turbine SIC or PC12 PIC
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>12,566 Multi Turbine SIC or PC12 PIC
how does right seat time on a 704 , >12,566 aircraft
compare to
PIC time on a Caravan / Pilatus PC12 in a 703 Operation
compare to
PIC time on a Caravan / Pilatus PC12 in a 703 Operation
Re: >12,566 Multi Turbine SIC or PC12 PIC
Depends on what you have and where you want to go.
Can you upgrade from F/O to Captain on the 12.5 at the company?
Otherwise
PIC,PIC,PIC
Can you upgrade from F/O to Captain on the 12.5 at the company?
Otherwise
PIC,PIC,PIC
Re: >12,566 Multi Turbine SIC or PC12 PIC
yes upgrades are 1yr at the moment
i always thought multi-engine time was the best
seems single engine is the greatest time a pilot can log these days
i always thought multi-engine time was the best
seems single engine is the greatest time a pilot can log these days
Re: >12,566 Multi Turbine SIC or PC12 PIC
Get it in writing for the upgrade. Do you have your A's or at least meet the requirements? Does the company have minimum PIC time for upgrades? Otherwise you answered the question already.
Then again, I always go for the pay at then end of the day.
Good luck,
Cube
Then again, I always go for the pay at then end of the day.
Good luck,
Cube
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Re: >12,566 Multi Turbine SIC or PC12 PIC
great advice.Get it in writing for the upgrade
don't go to your CP/Ops mgr/owners office and ask for this first you'll get laughed at. you don't even want to know what comes after. PIC is king for the airlines, once you have enough of that then worry about ticking the little boxes afterward.
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Re: >12,566 Multi Turbine SIC or PC12 PIC
Depends on your current experience level.
If you have enough PIC time to get ATP and/or are low on multi time, go multi.
If not, go PC12.
If you have enough PIC time to get ATP and/or are low on multi time, go multi.
If not, go PC12.
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Re: >12,566 Multi Turbine SIC or PC12 PIC
I think this one comes down to a comparison of the type of operation you are going to work for and what YOU want to do. I turned down a right seat on a Tier 3, multi-turbine cojo for left seat PC12. Within two years I was fortunate enough to go from left seat PC12 to Left seat med size corporate jet with no multi time. None of us have a crystal ball. So, I think its important for you to do what is important for you and your family. The rest will come...
Goodluck
BF
Goodluck
BF
Re: >12,566 Multi Turbine SIC or PC12 PIC
heavy time for sure over the PC12
a right seat PC12 driver cant go anywhere else, a right seat B1900/Metro...etc can get into porter/jazz...etc
a PC12 Captain cant get into westjet or air canada direct, but a B1900/Metro captain can
the heavy t-prop time is better
a right seat PC12 driver cant go anywhere else, a right seat B1900/Metro...etc can get into porter/jazz...etc
a PC12 Captain cant get into westjet or air canada direct, but a B1900/Metro captain can
the heavy t-prop time is better
Re: >12,566 Multi Turbine SIC or PC12 PIC
You only live once. Do what will make you happy!
What the upgrade time is now means S-F-A tomorrow.
If you have lots of PIC now, then the 12,5 multi time would be a good experience regardless of the upgrade.
No matter what you decide on, the grass will always be greener someplace else!
Good Luck
What the upgrade time is now means S-F-A tomorrow.
If you have lots of PIC now, then the 12,5 multi time would be a good experience regardless of the upgrade.
No matter what you decide on, the grass will always be greener someplace else!
Good Luck
Re: >12,566 Multi Turbine SIC or PC12 PIC
He actually said left seat on the PC12 not right, so that makes a big difference in this discussion. Also, while it's not as likely now with the current downturn, I've known a few people who went straight from a PC12 to airline, corporate etc.vmc_demo wrote:heavy time for sure over the PC12
a right seat PC12 driver cant go anywhere else, a right seat B1900/Metro...etc can get into porter/jazz...etc
a PC12 Captain cant get into westjet or air canada direct, but a B1900/Metro captain can
the heavy t-prop time is better
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Re: >12,566 Multi Turbine SIC or PC12 PIC
The 10th reply is the winner!
Take the one that pays more.
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Re: >12,566 Multi Turbine SIC or PC12 PIC
young wannabe applying for first job.
cp : how many hours to you have
wannabe : "496 sir, and 50 hours are on a complex with constant speed prop
and retractable landing gear". he says hopefully
cp: come back when you have a 1000 hrs our insurance require this.
applicant comes back a yr later with a 1000hrs wanting to get on the twin
cp: well you can fly our 172 now but the insurance company wants 2,000 hrs for the twin.
applicant but i have been instructing to get the 1000hrs and and is all on the 172 .
cp: thats great should n't take ya long to get up to speed around here eh. pay is 1000month 24 7/ but really watch to those duty times cuz we don't reimburse for any fines you get. start tommorrow 7am sharp.
applicant : 'but what about my instructing job I got to give them some notice seems only fair "
cp: this is aviation son and fair is not part of the equation > well allright day after tommorrow. ok
1yr later lowtimer is getting close to 2000hrs and that twin but the company sells it and buys a twin turbine
cp: calls em into the office and says sorry to do this to ya but insurance company wants 3000 hrs for the turbine so youll have to ride right seat
for a while.
2more yrs go by and has enough time but sees there buddies dashing off to the dash 8somethings and he needs pic twin.
6y rs in has 5-6000 hrs all the requirements polish up the resume to send to the "big boys " gets the pfo letter saying he is now over qualified
thats aviation.
cp : how many hours to you have
wannabe : "496 sir, and 50 hours are on a complex with constant speed prop
and retractable landing gear". he says hopefully
cp: come back when you have a 1000 hrs our insurance require this.
applicant comes back a yr later with a 1000hrs wanting to get on the twin
cp: well you can fly our 172 now but the insurance company wants 2,000 hrs for the twin.
applicant but i have been instructing to get the 1000hrs and and is all on the 172 .
cp: thats great should n't take ya long to get up to speed around here eh. pay is 1000month 24 7/ but really watch to those duty times cuz we don't reimburse for any fines you get. start tommorrow 7am sharp.
applicant : 'but what about my instructing job I got to give them some notice seems only fair "
cp: this is aviation son and fair is not part of the equation > well allright day after tommorrow. ok
1yr later lowtimer is getting close to 2000hrs and that twin but the company sells it and buys a twin turbine
cp: calls em into the office and says sorry to do this to ya but insurance company wants 3000 hrs for the turbine so youll have to ride right seat
for a while.
2more yrs go by and has enough time but sees there buddies dashing off to the dash 8somethings and he needs pic twin.
6y rs in has 5-6000 hrs all the requirements polish up the resume to send to the "big boys " gets the pfo letter saying he is now over qualified
thats aviation.