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 Post subject: Supersonic Colors
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:31 am 
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I was browsing the intertubes when this particular instrument color code caught my eye. Further browsing hasn't shed much light on the topic.
I'm referring to the colors in the bottom right quadrants of the N2 gauges (top row of the center console). The green, green/yellow, blue, blue/yellow.
So what do these represent?
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Here is another picture. In this one, engine 1 and engine 3 have apparently switched colors. One can also better make out three annunciation lights, with the same green, yellow, blue above each gauge.
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The overhead panel also shows the same color codes on the left side. I was able to find out that this is the "hydraulic selector", but nothing more. Surely these are related.
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Also, I haven't seen this color coding in other planes, so maybe its directly related to supersonic flight.
Any info, better images, links, etc will be appreciated.


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 Post subject: Re: Supersonic Colors
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:39 am 
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Very cool, but what plane is it? B1?


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 Post subject: Re: Supersonic Colors
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:47 am 
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Looks like the Concorde to me

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 Post subject: Re: Supersonic Colors
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Jastapilot wrote:
Very cool, but what plane is it? B1?
Yeah its a Concorde.
When I first wrote the post I had a line about it being a Concorde. Then I took it out thinking: 'Thats just gonna look lame. Everyone will know what it is.' :smt040

And speaking of the B1, I took a look and didn't see anything resembling this color code.


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 Post subject: Re: Supersonic Colors
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:05 am 
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Dunno for sure but i'm gonna guess system repersentation,

IE blue hydraulics run off number one engine

Green and yellow off number two

ETC....

And most switches would be color coded to match what power plant or gen they get there pwr or hydraulic from.

Only a guess

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 Post subject: Re: Supersonic Colors
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:44 am 
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You should post your question on pprune. There are lots of British Airways guys there


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 Post subject: Re: Supersonic Colors
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Might it have something to do with the engine intakes? IIRC, they have moveable 'ramps' in the intakes to slow the intake air to subsonic speeds before it enters the engines.
I'd second BPF's suggestion, though. Someone on PPRUNE would know for sure..

Edited to add: Sorry, stole your thunder at PPRUNE - in the Tech section. We'll see what comes up..

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 Post subject: Re: Supersonic Colors
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Considering if those colors are denoting a power setting, it's outside the red line, and I can't see that being ok in any phase of flight, supersonic or not. I think Fish nailed it. Something to do with systems.


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 Post subject: Re: Supersonic Colors
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:13 am 
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From PPRUNE:
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These colours indicate the hydraulic system which has a pump driven by that engine.
Engine 1: Green Only
Engine 2: Green plus Yellow
Engine 3: Blue Only
Engine 4: Blue plus Yellow

As far as I remember!

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 Post subject: Re: Supersonic Colors
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AMM wrote:
Surely these are related.


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 Post subject: Re: Supersonic Colors
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it was the 70's man everything was groovy :gayflag:

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 Post subject: Re: Supersonic Colors
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niss wrote:
AMM wrote:
Surely these are related.


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Yeah... whatever Michael Scott.

No worries North Shore.
For everyone else>http://www.pprune.org/tech-log/396328-any-ex-concorde-pilots.html#post5327894


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 Post subject: Re: Supersonic Colors
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The guys at BA never referred to Concorde as "the Concorde". They refer it it simply as Concorde. As in "I take Concorde on Monday" or "We're happy with the loads on Concorde."

Interesting twist.

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 Post subject: Re: Supersonic Colors
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Still the f@#$%'in coolest looking aeroplane ever!

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 Post subject: Re: Supersonic Colors
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bmc wrote:
The guys at BA never referred to Concorde as "the Concorde". They refer it it simply as Concorde. As in "I take Concorde on Monday" or "We're happy with the loads on Concorde."

Interesting twist.
What about a Concorde? :smt040
But yeah I've noticed that too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYQS3qAIjAo


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 Post subject: Re: Supersonic Colors
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Does it not bring a tear to one's eye when you think how perhaps 'less cool' it is today when something as inspiring as Concorde, the Saturn V, Thunderbirds ("are go"), and other such inspirations for young kids such as ourselves have not been replaced for another generation?

I stood in awe, a 10 year old, as the firct Vickers VC10 did a low pass curving around with me at the centre of its turn... Inspiring.
I grew up with Gerry Anderson with Fireball XL5 through to Thunderbirds with many aircraft looking like sleeker versions of that VC10!
I was awestruck again as a 20 year old in that old factory at Brooklands where once Vickers Vimy bombers rolled down the line to be replaced now by the final five Concorde fuselages, and I had to learn all about CM materials; special aluminium alloys developed for this aircraft.
I was fascinated at Dobbins where the super secret F22 fighter was being put together to be seen from a distance... It was like a scene out of Star Wars.
Those were exciting times... Replaced now by artificial, computer generated images of what could be...

Have we lost our impetus to create novel machines in which we can experience?


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 Post subject: Re: Supersonic Colors
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I dunno, ask an Aurora pilot!


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 Post subject: Re: Supersonic Colors
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I dunno, ask an Aurora pilot!

That was a vintage aeroplane while Concorde was on the drawing board!


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 Post subject: Re: Supersonic Colors
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Aurora

They kept the SR-71 hidden for long enough ,only letting them be seen after the Aurora was built.
The replacement for this secret weapon is so secret that nobody even knows its name.


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 Post subject: Re: Supersonic Colors
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OK I didn't think of this one:

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I was thinking:

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'Shows how much I know...

Then there was:

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But with no pilot :(


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 Post subject: Re: Supersonic Colors
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The three lights above the N2 gauges are thrust reverser position lights.

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