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OK, so the Union of Soviet Americas is worse!

That's progress I suppose!
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Your bag most travel with the passenger rule only applies if the airline doesn't loss it or redirect to another destination. Blows me away how airlines preach you and your bag have to be on the same flight unless they loss it or misdirect it. Then your bag can go on any flight with out you. On more then 1 occasion i have tried to get on an earlier connection to get home only to be told i can't because i have to travel with my luggage. Then i stand at the bag carousel waiting for a bag in some cases that went on the earlier flight and in others cases didn't make my flight.
I said I was well aware of this - but inside the US - This is NOT the case.
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Quote: "If you're not going to need or use it in flight, then it should be checked."

Not until you can 100% guarantee that the bags will not be lost or stolen! This is supposed to be an aviation forum. Think of all the aircrew who commute to work. Think of all the aircrew and support staff who work on rotation for contract operators with aircraft based in other countries. On each journey these crew need to carry the tools of their trade and supporting documents. There is no way any intelligent pilot is going to have his headsets, GPS, handheld aviation radio, cell phone, calculator, logbook, licences, etc, going as checked baggage and subject to being lost or stolen. This lot should stay with you in your CARRY ON baggage or else refuse to travel. The employer will have to make other arrangements to get you to and from your base. The same applies to other categories of air travellers.

The issues with carry-ons are a direct result of the refusal of the airlines and government agencies to deal with the unreliability of the checked luggage pipeline. Checked bags should be tracked by bar code and signed for by responsible persons from check in at the departure airport through all transfers and stages to final collection by the rightful owner at the destination airport. The owner/pax would have to provide ID to ensure that the bags are not taken by someone else. There might be objections to this from those who profit from or are part of a baggage theft ring!
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No secret to anyone....
Experts: tighter airport security result of U.S. fear
By Steve Rennie, THE CANADIAN PRESS
Last Updated: 3rd January 2010, 3:32pm

OTTAWA - Don't expect tighter security at Canadian airports to relax until the United States gets over its latest air scare, aviation experts say.

The ban on certain types of carry-on luggage on U.S.-bound flights, along with other restrictions, are likely to last as long as the Americans want them to.

"Canada is very much a victim of the United States," said David Gillen, director of the University of British Columbia's Centre for Transportation Studies.

"They're the ones who (are) driving the entire process. So all that we can really do is react and try and change the thinking of (U.S.) Homeland Security,
that they should be looking for people rather than incidents . . . (that) is, I think, a very difficult process."

Enhanced security measures have been in place since an apparent terror attack was thwarted on Christmas Day.

Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, a 23-year-old Nigerian man, was arrested after he allegedly tried to bring down the Northwest Airlines flight from
Amsterdam to Detroit.

The incident prompted authorities to at least temporarily ban carry-on bags on flights into the U.S., though items such as small purses, coats, laptops and
medication or medical devices are allowed.

Transport Canada says the restrictions will continue until further notice.

"Right now, we're evaluating everything and our options," department spokeswoman Melanie Lafrance said Sunday.

"Until further notice, they're in place."

But the Canadian government actually has little say in the matter, says the head of the Air Transport Association of Canada.

"Transport Canada, I don't think has a word to say in it," said John McKenna, the organization's president and chief executive officer.

"They're going to abide by American decisions on this anyway, because otherwise we'll be denied the right to fly over U.S. airspace."

Added Gillen: "I don't think we have a big stick at all."

And he cautioned against expecting a return to normal when airport security concerns abate.

"In the past, what you see is the memory fades, and gradually there is a relaxation going on," said Gillen, who has advised the U.S. Federal Aviation
Administration, the U.K. Civil Aviation Authority and Transport Canada.

"But I think that in each instance what happens is you move to another threshold. And even with the relaxation, you don't move down to the previous
location that you were.

"In other words, there's always another layer, there's always another issue that's been added on. So it's almost like walking up a set of stairs, where you're
cumulatively building all of the restrictions that are put in place."

U.S. President Barack Obama has said there was a systemic failure to prevent the attack and ordered a thorough review of security shortcomings.
The president has summoned Homeland Security officials to meet with him Tuesday at the White House.

On Sunday, the president's top counterterrorism adviser cited "lapses" and errors in the sharing of intelligence and clues about the plot.

But John Brennan, who is leading a White House review of the incident, denied U.S. intelligence agencies missed a "smoking gun" that could have
tipped them to the terror attempt sooner.

The Associated Press, citing an unnamed senior British official, reported Sunday that British intelligence officials knew Abdulmutallab had ties to
U.K. extremists but did not consider him a high enough risk to alert American authorities.
http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2 ... 33601.html
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The US now wants passengers originating in 14 "evil" countries to face additional screening, even when transiting through European airports, as of this morning - but the European airports are finding it rather hard to separate such passengers from the rest, considering there are some 30 flights to the US daily at each major European hub - and who´s going to foot the bill? Certainly not the US of A....

http://www.adn.com/usbusiness/story/1077770.html
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In Ottawa, Transport Minister John Baird and Minister of State Rob Merrifield are scheduled to make "an important announcement related to security at Canadian airports" on Tuesday afternoon.

It is expected that the two ministers will elaborate on plans to install body scanners at nine international airports in Canada, including in Montreal, Toronto and Ottawa -- a development that was reported on in Tuesday's La Presse newspaper.

The La Presse report said the scanners will also be installed in Halifax, Vancouver, Calgary and Edmonton.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/s ... pStoriesV2
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