G8/G20 VIP air travel

[tedcuthbert]

I'm not much of a spotter, but am somewhat interested in the air activity that will be happening around Toronto/Huntsville next weekend. So the leaders & their entourages will all be arriving in their own rides http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_transp ... government but does anyone have any idea (I know it's super top secret stuff...LoL) how they'll be getting around when here? G20 only participants, will likely be landing YYZ then motorcading downtown (guess thet'll be parking all those big AC on the de-icing ramp?). There was speculation G8 leaders might be landing North Bay then heli or motorcade to Deerhurst, though a couple have AC that could land at YQA, but lately I've been reading they might all be landing YYZ then helicoptering to Deerhurst, then back downtown for the G20. I'm guessing the Americans will be the only ones bringing their own helicopters, so would other leaders hitch a ride from the airport to Deerhurst (about 100 miles) on Canadian Gov't helicopters? Do we have any gov't VIP heli's? or possibly use STOL AC into the strip at Deerhurst (3000 ft)? On another note, the RCMP has been active amassing a fleet of AC at YQA http://www.metcam.navcanada.ca/hb/playe ... =56&lang=e and GCFR the govt DHC-7 patrol AC flew in this morning. Anyhow, for those grounded with time on their hands or those of us who like aviation background noise, we can always listen to what's happening through the YYZ & YTZ tower streaming http://www.liveatc.net/search/?icao=cytz

[AuxBatOn]

I don't think this kind of information belongs to the public domain.

[sheephunter]

Busy in the air around Huntsville today. Anyone know if they are using the Deerhurst frequency or YQA or on another channel? Might blast around after dinner to see what all the commotion is about.

[Old fella]

over 1B on the Canadian taxpayer tab for this G8/20............ with all this security/fake lakes and YYZ issues.

[LegoMan]

Why did they need to build a fake lake? Ontario has 200,000 real ones.

[AMM]

rabble rabble rabble fake lake rabble rabble

[robbreid]

Movements so far;

Today, USAF C-17 arrived 0600 departed 1915 tail number 07-7182
5N-AGO Nigerian Falcon 900
FAE051 Ecuadorian Presidential Legacy EMB135

Hope everybody remembers the 1 Billion on Election Day, I know i will!!!!

[sheephunter]

Lots of equippment parked on the Deerhurst Runway (05 end) doesn't look like they'll be using it. However, lots of room to land Twin Otters. Lots of OPP vehicles parked on lots, vans, rhinos, atv's, boats, buses, tents you name it, I saw it this evening. Not very many vehicles at Deehurst itself. Pretty interesting looking around. Saw one of the big boats on patrol... yeah right... was a nice evening for just plain cruising for them & me and best yet never saw another aircraft. Still no new camera so photos were crap.

[C-FABH]

Russia State Transport Company IL-96 RA96019 arrived this afternoon, parked @ CDF.

(To answer your question - there will be Chopper transfers from YYZ to Deerhurst... only for those that "Bring Your Own Chopper")

[winds_in_flight_wtf]

This is the speculated list from last years events (from airliners.net) There are going to be MANY delays, and an officer every 100m around the perimeter. During AF1s arrival all surrounding access roads etc will be blocked. It will be parked at the GTAA hangars (its been locked down and is currently under 24/7 patrol)

Argentina
Argentine Air Force Boeing 757-23A T-01

Australia
Royal Australian Air Force Boeing 737-7DT A36-002

Brazil
Brazilian Air Force Boeing VC-96 2115
Brazilian Air Force Boeing VC-96 2116
Brazilian Air Force Airbus VC-1A 2101

Canada
Canadian Air Force Canadair CC-144C 144618
Canadian Air Force Canadair CC-144C unknown

Ethiopia
Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 767-360ER ET-ALO

France
French Air Force Dassault Falcon 7x F-RAFA
French Air Force Airbus A319-115XCJ F-RBFA

Germany
German Air Force Airbus A310-304 10+21

India
Air India Boeing 747-437 VT-ESN

Indonesia
Garuda Indonesian Airlines Airbus A330-341 PK-GPA

Italy
Italian Air Force Dassault Falcon 900EX MM-62171
Italian Air Force Airbus A319-115XCJ MM-62209

Japan
Japanese Air Force Boeing 747-47C 20-1101
Japanese Air Force Boeing 747-47C 20-1102

Mexico
Mexican Air Force Boeing 757-225 TP-01
Hawker 850XP XA-CHG

Russia
Rossiya Airlines Ilyushin IL-96-300 RA-96019
Russian State Transport Co. Ilyushin IL-96-300 RA-96016
Russian State Transport Co. Ilyushin IL-96-300 RA-96018
Russian State Transport Co. Ilyushin IL-62M RA-86540
Russian State Transport Co. Ilyushin IL-62M RA-86561
Russian Air Force Ilyushin IL-76MD RA-76719
Russian Air Force Ilyushin IL-76MD RA-76719
Xiamen Aviation Bombardier BD-700-1A10 P4-AAA

Saudi Arabia
Saudi Arabian Ministry of Finance Gulfstream G300 HZ-MF3
Saudi Aramco Aviation Boeing 767-2AX/ER N767A

South Africa
South African Air Force Boeing 737-7ED ZS-RSA

South Korea
Asiana Airlines Boeing 747-48E HL-7428

Spain
Spanish Air Force Airbus A310-304 45-51

Sweden
Swedish Air Force Gulfstream Tp102A 102001
Swedish Air Force Gulfstream Tp102C 102004

Turkey
Turkish Air Force Airbus A319-115XCJ TC-ANA

United Kingdom
Virgin Atlantic Airlines Boeing 747-4Q8 G-VFAB

United States
United States Air Force Boeing VC-25A 92-9000
United States Air Force Boeing C-40B 01-0041
United States Air Force Boeing C-17A 04-4136
United States Air Force Boeing C-17A unknown
United States Air Force Boeing KC-135T 59-1468
United States Air Force Boeing KC-135T 59-1490
United States Air Force Lockheed C-5B 85-0002
United States Air Force Lockheed Martin EC-130J 96-8154
United States Army Short C-23C 90-07015
United States Army Sikorsky UH-60L 91-26328
United States Army Sikorsky UH-60L 91-26974
United States Coast Guard Aerospatiale HH-65C unknown
United States Coast Guard Aerospatiale HH-65C unknown
United States Marine Corps VH-60N unknown
United States DHS Pilatus PC-12/45 N593PC
United States FBI Bell 407 *****
United States FBI Bell 407 *****
United States FBI Bell 412 *****
United States FBI Bell 412 *****
United States FBI Sikorsky UH-60Q 08-20174
United States FBI Cessna R182 *****
United States FBI (chartered) Boeing 727-200 N720CK
United States ICE Pilatus PC-12/45 N541PB
Pennsylvania State Police Agusta SPA A119 N165P
Pennsylvania State Police Bell 206L-3 N153P
Pennsylvania State Police Bell 206L-3 N173P
Pennsylvania State Police Cessna 208B N1287G
Pennsylvania DOT Raytheon B300 N81PA

[IFRATC]

Speculate all you want. Many briefings, many aircraft, many controllers, lots of coordination. Thats all we can divulge. Nothing more. "Bring your own choppers"???.....Lets just say its all taken care of from the air.....

IFRATC

[tedcuthbert]

Yes, definitely going to be an interesting week at YYZ, as to air transport Toronto to/from Deerhusrt, I understand it's customary for the host country to offer rides to those without their own, for Kananaskis and Montebello (ok, that one was a while back) they used Griffons, not exactly a deluxe ride, but it beats driving. Will be interesting to hear how it all goes. Thanks for the recon Sheephunter, I hear Fowlers pit is quite the sight. I was going to fly over YQA & Deerhurst tomorrow on the way to the cottage (just north of Huntsville), but looks like the weather will keep me grounded. great old clip from Montebello, nice shot of Ronnie driving a golf cart - ah the good old days
http://archives.cbc.ca/politics/interna ... ips/13570/

[robbreid]

June 21 YYZ Movements;

RA-78818 IL-76MD Russian AF
RA-76638 IL-76MD Russian AF
07-7182 C17 USAF back again . . .
VC-22591 EMB190 Brazilian Air Force

[C-FABH]

I understand it's customary for the host country to offer rides to those without their own, for Kananaskis and Montebello (ok, that one was a while back) they used Griffons, not exactly a deluxe ride, but it beats driving. Will be interesting to hear how it all goes.

I niavely assumed we wouldn't embarrass ourselves by using those in a VIP role.

Anyways, any other info that can be divulged by those that can't divulge it???

[winds_in_flight_wtf]

Speculate all you want. Many briefings, many aircraft, many controllers, lots of coordination. Thats all we can divulge. Nothing more. "Bring your own choppers"???.....Lets just say its all taken care of from the air.....

IFRATC

well aren't you just heroic. I will speculate because I am not privy to such information. Thanks for the news.

[IFRATC]

Thanks for your sarcasm retard. Not trying to be "heroic" as you eloquantly suggest. All I am saying is those that are privy to the operation and how its going to be conducted and what surveillance is being implemented simply cannot divulge that information.
If you are ANYWHERE near Deerhurst without a code or flightplan starting Thurs. be prepared to understand your intercept orders. MANY, MANY EYES ARE WATCHING YOU. I CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH....

IFRATC

[niss]

Thanks for your sarcasm retard. Not trying to be "heroic" as you eloquantly suggest. All I am saying is those that are privy to the operation and how its going to be conducted and what surveillance is being implemented simply cannot divulge that information.
If you are ANYWHERE near Deerhurst without a code or flightplan starting Thurs. be prepared to understand your intercept orders. MANY, MANY EYES ARE WATCHING YOU. I CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH....

IFRATC

We do a lot of work in the Huntsville area and I was told by a co-worker that the US military has taken over the area of Port Cunnington and witnessed Apache or Cobra gunships flying overhead. Are these just private security for the American entourage or are these part of the intercept plans? And if intercepted by Foreign forces in Canada are we legally required to comply?

[robbreid]

Hmmm, what are the odds, some happy go lucky float plane, with no care in the world - who's never heard of the G20 or cares - takes his regular route thru Huntsville???

After all how many aircraft have cruised thru Reagan Airport airspace unannounced so far - lots and lots of them. Haven't shot one down yet!!!

[sheephunter]

I'm tied down 5.02 miles west of the threshold of 05 at Deerhurst. Raining pretty hard right now, only heard one helicopter so far today but it sounded like it may have gone into the Hospital. Still pretty quiet around here. Three bomb threats though so far (that we know of) . I think us locals are basically staying at home and out of the way but I can imagine someone cuttin' cross country not knowing why they need to know their intercept orders. Protesters are supposedly showing up Thurs. Their "lot" is about 1/2 mile or less up the road from my house. Not too impreeded with that. It'll be interested to see how this billion dollar party unravells.

[Old fella]

What an "effing" colossal waste of our money, this over bloated exercise is. Heads should roll and nuts snapped over this 3 day fest to host a useless summit that means "dick F--- all" the the average person who is tagged to foot said bill. The palms will be greased starting with the hookers all the way up the the instant security experts.... on our(taxpayer) tab.