Can a Canadian fly a N-Reg plane in canada?

[Nanart]

Can a Canadian fly a N-Reg plane in Canada with a Canadian licence or do you have to have an FAA licence?

[Beefitarian]

Sort of but...

I think you need a tourist permit of somesort and it's only good for a short time.

Here's a starting point for you.
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/aviat ... g-usa.html

[nortont]

You talking privately or commercially ??? Commercially, Yes. Privately, not sure ... Just read the above link, the answer is there.

[Beefitarian]

Privately. Commercially you need a work permit also and the tourist license would be no good.

[nortont]

Privately. Commercially you need a work permit also and the tourist license would be no good.

No need for a work permit to fly a N number plane in Canada for a Canadian.

[Beefitarian]

Privately. Commercially you need a work permit also and the tourist license would be no good.

No need for a work permit to fly a N number plane in Canada for a Canadian.

Really, how would a canadian company be doing that, a lease?

[Aviatard]

CAR 401.04(a)

401.04 No person shall act as a flight crew member or exercise the privileges of a flight crew licence in Canada in an aircraft registered in a contracting state other than Canada, unless the person holds, and can produce while so acting or while exercising such privileges,

(a) a flight crew permit or licence issued under this Subpart; or
(amended 2003/06/01; previous version)

(b) a flight crew licence, or a document equivalent to a foreign licence validation certificate, that is issued under the laws of the contracting state.

"contracting state" - means a state that is a party to the Convention; (État contractant)

List of ICAO contracting states:

http://www.icao.int/icao/en/members.htm

[trey kule]

Good grief. I think some of you people need to take a course in reading comprehension

Canadian pilot license. Canadian Airspace. N-registered ariplane.

And I do know the answer, but here is what I think you should do if you really want to know or are planning to do it.
1. Have a look at the CARS under license privleges
2. Contact TC and ask them ..so you can be sure you are getting it from the horse's mouth and not the other end.
3. There are some issues with regard to how the aircraft is registered and wether you are flying for reward etc. which you never specified but you might want to make all that very clear to TC., and lastly
4. AvCanada is many things. Good things. But not the place to look for specific legal advice.
5. And dont be so lazy to look things up for yourself.

[trey kule]

I see someone already posted a CARS reference while I was composing. There just may be other CARS references you should look up to make certain that that is applicable to all situations.

As to the tourist permits ...WTF are you people smoking?

[Beefitarian]

Good grief. I think some of you people need to take a course in reading comprehension

Pffftt. I'm not paying money and leaving the basement unless I get to fly an airplane eat something or best case scenario both.

[nortont]

Privately. Commercially you need a work permit also and the tourist license would be no good.

No need for a work permit to fly a N number plane in Canada for a Canadian.

Really, how would a canadian company be doing that, a lease?

NAFTA.

[trey kule]

I can understand and accept that. And while I dont really understand why some people go on public forums for specfic and important advice, it is their choice. I just have trouble with some answers on threads where it is clearly obvious the person responding either can not read or can not understand what they are reading, or they are just really really stupid.

[Beefitarian]

As to the tourist permits ...WTF are you people smoking?

banana peels. You?

[SuperchargedRS]

No need for a work permit to fly a N number plane in Canada for a Canadian
Really, how would a canadian company be doing that, a lease?

NAFTA.

NAFTA does NOT cover pilots, unless you are not a pilot but a cockpit "manager"

[nortont]

No need for a work permit to fly a N number plane in Canada for a Canadian
Really, how would a canadian company be doing that, a lease?

NAFTA.

NAFTA does NOT cover pilots, unless you are not a pilot but a cockpit "manager"

Sorry man, I'm talking Commercially.
My company leases N-number planes from the U.S for their operations through NAFTA. Canadian pilots with U.S licences. Doing it for years, and T.C knows about it, They're the ones who made us get U.S licences. (before we did it on our Canadian Licences)

[Gino Under]

Yes, you can fly an N registered airplane in Canada. It has nothing to do with the CARS.
You will have to get an FAA pilot Certificate.
If you hold a Canadian pilot licence, stop in to your nearest FAA FSDO and do a conversion. Otherwise, you got a problem. I'll let the FAA fill in the details for you since you have the details of your particular situation.
When you receive your new FAA Certificate, go fly your N registered airplane all over Canada if you like.

Be careful with Parts 91, 121, and 135. (Not knowing what type of flying you intend to do is the main issue with your question)
Atlas Air had a 121 operation in the UK that used N registered B747s. It was operated under a UK ACMI company with crews UK based. The crews needed "right of abode" and an FAA pilot certificate.
Without your specifics, it's difficult to give you the definitive answer.

Ask the FAA and good luck.

Gino Under

[Aviatard]

Read the question again:

Can a Canadian fly a N-Reg plane in Canada with a Canadian licence or do you have to have an FAA licence?

Yes, you can fly an N registered airplane in Canada. It has nothing to do with the CARS.
You will have to get an FAA pilot Certificate.
If you hold a Canadian pilot licence, stop in to your nearest FAA FSDO and do a conversion. Otherwise, you got a problem.

It has everything to do with the CARS. Read CAR 401.04. Here, I'll make it easy for you:
http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/r ... htm#401_04

Your advice is simply wrong. You do not have to get an FAA license. I'm going to have to agree with Trey Kule on the reading comprehension part.

[winds_in_flight_wtf]

Tourist Permits was a good point, forgot about those . There was something in the CARS if i recall correctly from ground school. If you have recommended 50 flight tests and hold a current night rating on floats you may qualify for the transborder N crossover . TMK, very few go for it because its just not worth the hassle.

[Tanker299]

The Simple answer is YES. You only need your Canadian license. The exception of that rule is if the plane is brought in under NAFTA ie. Skydive ships. It is always best to have an FAA ticket and it is simple to get. 60? multiple guess (you can do it in Toronto) send in "foreign license verification form" found on the FAA website, then go to a FSDO. The FAA regs clearly state you can operate an N reg plane with a foreign licence. Also PIC is Defined in the FAA regs as the Sole Manipulator of the controls ie. students log PIC in the US.

I have an FAA ticket and have flown N reg'd plane's in Canada and the USA.

[tractor driver]

Sure hope so, did it for years.

[trey kule]

anybody read June 3rd dilbert? this thread is proof positive

[V1RotateV2]

YES.
It is very simple and it has been addressed many times before:

You can legally fly anywhere in the ICAO world with either:

a) A license from the country you are in (regardless of the registration of the plane)
b) A license from the country where the plane is registered.

That is the way it works.

[Big Pistons Forever]

As was noted above there is no doubt that you can fly an American Registered aircraft in Canadian airspace with a Canadian pilots license. I think it is important to note that you cannot cross the border into the US in that American aircraft without holding a US pilots license. Also when flying under the privileges of your Canadian license you must follow the CAR's not the often less restrictive US FAR's.

[Brewguy]

+ 1

As a gross oversimplification, with a Canadian license you can:
- Fly anybody's aircraft in Canada; or
- Fly a Canadian aircraft anywhere.

The complicated part is how the aircraft is legally brought into Canada. A company I previously worked for would sometimes lease US registered aircraft and operate them commercially in Canada. For the duration of the lease, and while it was on our OC, the a/c was considered (for all intents and purposes) to be 'Canadian'.

[Aviatard]

anybody read June 3rd dilbert? this thread is proof positive

Know who else was proof positive? HITLER!