Do female pilots have it easier? Myth or Fact?

[delay256]

Someone mentioned this to me...

Do women have it easier when it comes to pilot hiring? Are there quotas in place for female aviators with major companies?

I dont hold an opinion on the issue but would love to hear your opinions.

[Nark]

Here is my 100% fact based opinion on your stirring question:

My company has hired nearly all of the women that have interviewed in recent months.

However, I should also mention we are pretty desperate for pilots. That said, if you have a heart beat you are pretty much hired; if you have a set of tits, bonus.

(we are trying to hire ~600+ pilots this year)

[bezerker]

I have a set of tits. Will they hire me?

[Nark]

Do you have a pulse?

[Ralliart]

we are trying to hire ~600+ pilots this year

I'm just curious, what is the starting FO salary on your Embraer in the USA?

[Nark]

Avcanada doesn't like the fancy graph I copied.

1st year is $23
2nd is $31
3rd $36
4th $37 and stay's at 4 year pay.

Min guarantee is 75, but average lately is 90+.

Not too sure if the new hire $5000 bonus still applies.

[justwork]

I just barfed in my mouth a little.

[benoit.baril]

23$ for a year's work?

[RenegadeAV8R]

23$ for a year's work?

This is probably for 1/1000th of a year's work

[Ralliart]

$23 with average 75 hours per month = $1725 per month = $20700 per year (before deductions) to fly an Embraer??!!

Even if you maxed out every month at 90 hours that would still only work out to about $24840 per year (before deductions).

[YYZSaabGuy]

I just barfed in my mouth a little.

Could be worse - have a look at this: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=82106. A princely $1,500 - $2,500/month for being on call 24/7 for a 3-month job during which you fly in and around severe summertime weather for hail suppression. I don't normally jump in on comp discussions as I figure it's a matter of basic supply and demand, but enough already: this one just seems beyond the pale. Am I missing something?

[flyinthebug]

Although it is easier for the female pilot to get the position, she tends to have to work twice as hard to keep it. Ive found that women do become employed easier than their male counterparts, but when it comes to staying at said job its at least twice as hard for a female. Female pilots have to do things twice as good as a male pilot would for the exact same recognition. This is just a fact.

Ive hired a few female pilots over the years. Other then 2 that were absolute idiots (they would have been idiots male or female) they all worked out quite well. The females that are driven to succeed in a male dominated industry, usually attain their goals. One young lady who we hired as a flight instructor and PA 31 FO just did her check ride on a 777- 3 weeks ago and im like a proud poppa!

Its no different for women in aviation then for women in any other male majority (dominated) industry. If they work twice as hard as their male colleagues, they will progress at the same rate.

Females with bad attitudes and little `hands and feet`skills on the other hand...they get promotions and upgraded faster. Oh and if they crash, they also get a promotion and moved onto a larger machine. Ive witnessed this in our industry and its not make believe. Its just how it is.

Thats my 2 cents on the topic.
Fly safe all.

[Flybabe]

Watching this with interest.

FWIW, I have known several MALES that have bent metal that have been upgraded as well. I don't think gender makes a difference in that regard.

[Rowdy]

In initial hiring? Yes.. they have it easier. As far as the job goes, I think they still have it a bit harder, fighting stereotypes, the old school train of thought of a lot of the older generation of pilots and it seems like a lot of them have to prove themselves a few times more so than their male counterparts.

Pretty simple though isn't it? For every 100 males, theres 1 female in aviation and they will get the job over every last one of those equally qualified males until the ratio changes.

[Kingairdriver]

A stat that comes to mind is 3% of ATPL's are held by females. 4% of Air Canada pilots are female.

[lilflyboy262]

In a world where we have to prove that we are not bias towards either gender, race or religion, any minority will have it easier.
It is a fact.

All of the bigger companies enjoy standing up and patting themselves on the back with their diverse workforce thinking "didn't we do well".
As for me, all I care about is that they can do their job properly, so I can concentrate on mine. If they are good enough to be able to have a beer and a laugh with after work then that is a bonus.

[iflyforpie]

Aside from being easy on the eyes and affirmative action, I don't think there is a whole lot of difference. Females have advantages and disadvantages that almost cancel each other out.

For example, a female will probably have an easier time breaking into the industry not only because they are so rare, but often they will have a bread winning partner that will allow them to pursue their passion more easily through the low time, low pay years. This was one of my flight instructors, my former chief pilot, a girl I used to go to school with, and a current co worker.

Also, the traditional disadvantage of the biological clock going off is a moot point early in the game. A girl leaving to have a family is no different than any pilot heading off to big tin.

[Rowdy]

Females have advantages and disadvantages that almost cancel each other out.
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Bingo!

[benoit.baril]

iflyforpie wrote:
Females have advantages and disadvantages that almost cancel each other out.

[floats4fun]

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