Take-off alternate

Northern Flyer · Post by **Northern Flyer** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:32 pm

Here's a question for you all,

Single engine IFR, what are the take-off mins? If the weather is below landing mins, and you would need a T/O alternate (multi engine) what would you do single engine?

split s · Post by **split s** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:55 pm

Believe it or not, you can get approved for the take-off alternate within 1 hour single engine as well.

J31 · Post by **J31** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 7:25 pm

Commercial single engine passenger IFR under the Canadian regs can only be operated under CAR’s 703 Air Taxi. If you fly a King Air or PC12 the takeoff alternate is “normal cruse”. In CAR’s 704 or 705 they then specify engine out cruse.

723.30 Take-off Minima
(1) The standard for conducting a take-off in IMC when weather conditions are at or above take-off, but below landing minima for the runway in use are:
(amended 1999/09/01; previous version)
(a) the aeroplane is twin-engined or a single-engine aeroplane approved for operations under section 703.22 of the Canadian Aviation Regulations;
(amended 1998/06/01; previous version)
(b) an alternate aerodrome is specified in the IFR flight plan; and
(c) that aerodrome is located within the distance that can be flown in 60 minutes at the normal cruising speed.

RB211 · Post by **RB211** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 7:47 pm

ETOPS approved a/c up to 2 hrs away for for a take-off alternate. 850nm for the B757.

fougapilot · Post by **fougapilot** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:25 am

J31 wrote:Commercial single engine passenger IFR under the Canadian regs can only be operated under CAR’s 703 Air Taxi. If you fly a King Air or PC12 ...

Did I miss something here? I didn't know Beech made a single engine KingAir....

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sakism · Post by **sakism** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 3:52 pm

I think he was just saying that under 703 there is no distinction between multi and single engine. Hence the King Air and PC12.

J31 · Post by **J31** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:29 pm

fougapilot wrote:
J31 wrote:Commercial single engine passenger IFR under the Canadian regs can only be operated under CAR’s 703 Air Taxi. If you fly a King Air or PC12 ...
Did I miss something here? I didn't know Beech made a single engine KingAir....

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It is 75 minutes on the single engine King Air to your takeoff alternate

and you don't make it to your takeoff alternate after an engine failure in the PC12