RCAF History Forum

[shitdisturber]

What sidestick said, minus the question marks.

[Colonel Sanders]

My Dad's CO (Blackie Williams, I think it was) killed a
guy riding a bicycle across the runway at Gibraltar,
landing a T-33. It's kind of a weird place.

[JMACK]

Back in the T-Bird days I bet there was no wigwags.

I sat at anchor off the end of that runway watching RAF Buccaneers doing their thing, 1978 on HMCS Protecteur. It was a pretty cool show!

More on the rock here!
http://www.amusingplanet.com/2011/11/gi ... rport.html

[Moose47]

G'day Colonel

Group Captain D. J. 'Blackie' Williams DSO, DFC, CD was the Commanding Officer of No. 1 (Fighter) Wing at Marville, France from the 25th of July, 1956 to the 18th of June, 1959

The aircraft you alluded to was a Canadair Silver Star (T-33) Mk. 3, s/n 21077 from No. 1 (F) Wing Headquarters Flight based at No. 1 (F) Wing, Marville, France

The Silver Star Mk. 3 made an emergency landing at Gibraltar on the 1st of August, 1956 due to a total electrical failure. No electricals, no heat. The cockpit frosted over. The aircraft stuck a cyclist crossing the runway and collapsed the starboard landing gear. It was later repaired.

Cheers...Chris

[Moose47]

G'day sidestick stirrer

You are correct sir. I will post a little bit of hsitory on the particular aircraft tomorrow.

Cheers...Chris

[CFR]

Thank you sir. Interesting still. I suspect since it was placed in the Experimental Category and it's fully aerobatic it might be pretty expensive to bring it back here.

Kind of a neat two seater from what I gather from the ad.

Beef

I missed this post the first time around. C-GSTH serial 2084 is back in Canada as C-GSTY. It is indeed a neat 2 seater and a blast to fly!

[Moose47]

G'day

The aircraft photographed on the 'Rock' is a Canadair North Star Mk. 1, s/n 17516. It was taken on strength with the Royal Canadian Air Force on the 17th of March, 1948. It came on strength with No. 426 'Thunderbird' (T) Squadron at R.C.A.F. Station Lachine (Dorval), Quebec on the 1st of April, 1948. At the time, the 'Thunderbirds' were under the command of Wing Commander Cecil George William Chapman DSO from Fredericton, New Brunswick.

North Star 17516 took part in 'Operation Hawk', the name given to the Korean Airlift. It also was took part in the airlift operation to the Belgian Congo between 1960 and 1962 where it transported U.N. troops and equipment.

No. 426 (T) Squadron disbanded at R.C.A.F. Station St. Hubert, Quebec on the 1st of September, 1962. North Star 17516 was transferred to No. 4 (T) Operational Training Unit at R.C.A.F. Station Trenton on the 26th of September, 1962. The unit took over North Star training and a North Star flight was formed. It was unofficially known as No. 213 Squadron which was one half of the former No. 426 Squadron. North Star 17516 was struck off strength with the R.C.A.F. on the 3rd of October, 1966.

Cheers...Chris

[Colonel Sanders]

G/C 'Blackie' Williams

That's him. A legendary WWII pilot and an incredible
post-WWII RCAF commander of fighter pilots.

They don't make men like him any more. A fine,
courageous man.

[beech 18]

August 27, 2013

Moose 47 a question for you.

Did you ever hear about the C-141 tankers for Canada.
I never heard about it before. Is it something that was considered?
I believe the CF-5's started operations in 1968. Was this an entry
into service consideration?

Thanks



Lower statement taken from the web. Unknown author.

Because of the obvious difficulties in rapidly deploying it's CF-5 fighters overseas in an emergency, Canada in 1967 tried to place an order for 4 Lockheed C-141 tanker aircraft. Lockheed turned down the order as uneconomical when they were switching to C-5 production, and the USAF also rejected a Canadian request for 8 C-141's because of the commitment in Southeast Asia. I would have thought the C-141 was an odd choice as the basis for a tanker, and I wondered if anyone had any further info?

[Beefitarian]

Thank you sir. Interesting still. I suspect since it was placed in the Experimental Category and it's fully aerobatic it might be pretty expensive to bring it back here.

Kind of a neat two seater from what I gather from the ad.

Beef

I missed this post the first time around. C-GSTH serial 2084 is back in Canada as C-GSTY. It is indeed a neat 2 seater and a blast to fly!

What plane were we talking about?

[Moose47]

G'day Beech 18

Pertaining to the potential purchase of the Lockheed C-141 Starlifter for service with the Canadian military.

The Canadian government placed an order for four Lockheed C-141A Starlifters. They were allotted a N.A.T.O. Stock Number and designated as the CC-141 Unfortunately, the production line had ceased and Lockheed would not re-open for anything less than six or eight airframes.

At the same time, five Boeing 707-347C’s suddenly became available. This allowed the Canadian Armed Forces to cancel the order for C-141A’s. The 707’s were purchased and re-designated as CC-137 in Canadian military service.

The R.C.A.F. issued a re-touched photo of a C-141A showing aerial refueling pods on the wing tips with two CF-5's plugged in.

The CC-141 Starlifter serial numbers were to be: 14101 to 14104

Cheers...Chris

[CFR]

Thank you sir. Interesting still. I suspect since it was placed in the Experimental Category and it's fully aerobatic it might be pretty expensive to bring it back here.

Kind of a neat two seater from what I gather from the ad.

Beef

I missed this post the first time around. C-GSTH serial 2084 is back in Canada as C-GSTY. It is indeed a neat 2 seater and a blast to fly!

What plane were we talking about?

viewtopic.php?f=54&t=84947&start=225

Midway down the page you asked about an aircraft (Slingsby Firefly) listed at controller.com I can confirm that it is a neat ride!

[Beefitarian]

Yeah, I kind of remember now. It looked pretty cool but likely an expensive proposition to return it here. I saw a musketeer for sale on controller recently. I'm a bum though so won't be buying any airplanes soon.

[beech 18]

August 27, 2013

Moose47

Thanks for the information regarding the C-141A Starlifters for Canada.
It's interesting that an order was actually placed and then cancelled
when the 707's became available. The 707's served the country well.

[hazatude]

Crosslinked from an old thread - viewtopic.php?f=54&t=45456&p=622763#p622763

[Moose47]

G'day

Here is my list of Canadians killed in the Battle of Britain while serving with the Royal Canadian Air Force, Royal Air Force and Royal Navy (Fleet Air
Arm) from the 10th of July – the 31st of October 1940.

Cheers...Chris

Pilot Officer R. W. G. Beley
Rossland, British Columbia
No. 151 (F) Squadron
Died of wounds on the 12th of August 1940 after combat the same day.
Age 20

Pilot Officer C. R. Bon Seingneur
Gull Lake, Saskatchewan
No. 257 ‘Burma’ (F) Squadron
Killed in action on the 3rd of September 1940
Age 21

Pilot Officer J. G. Boyle
Casselman, Ontario
No. 41 (F) Squadron
Killed in action on the 28th of September 1940
Age 26

Pilot Officer J. S. Bryson
West Mount, Quebec
No. 92 ‘East India’ (F) Squadron
Killed in action on the 28th of September 1940
Age 27

Pilot Officer N. N. Campbell
St. Thomas, Ontario
No. 242 ‘Canadian’ (F) Squadron
Killed in action on the 17th of October 1940
Age 21

Sub-Lieutenant J. C. Carpenter, Royal Navy
Toronto, Ontario
No. 46 ‘Uganda’ (F) Squadron
Killed in action on the 8th of September 1940
Age 21

Pilot Officer G. H. Corbett
Victoria, British Columbia
No. 66 (F) Squadron
Killed in action on the 8th of October 1940
Age 20

Pilot Officer H. D. Edwards
Winnipeg, Manitoba
No. 92 ‘East India’ (F) Squadron
Killed in action on the 11th of September 1940
Age 24

Flying Officer R. L. Edwards
Cobourg, Ontario
No. 1 (RCAF) Fighter Squadron
Killed in action on the 26th of August 1940
Age 28

Pilot Officer W. M. L. Fiske
Montreal, Quebec
No. 601 ‘County of London’ (F) Squadron
Died on the 17th of August 1940 of wounds sustained in combat the previous day.
Age 29

Flight Lieutenant H. R. Hamilton
Oak Point, New Brunswick
No. 85 (F) Squadron
Killed in action on the 29th of August 1940
Age 23

Pilot Officer D. A. Hewitt
Moncton, New Brunswick
No. 501 ‘County of Gloucester’ (F) Squadron
Killed in action on the 12th of July 1940
Age 20

Pilot Officer R. A. Howley
Victoria, British Columbia
No. 141 (F) Squadron
Killed in action on the 19th of July 1940
Age 20

Pilot Officer J. T. Johnston
Brandon, Manitoba
No. 151 (F) Squadron
Killed in action on the 15th of August 1940
Age 26

Pilot Officer J. A. P. Laricheliere
Montreal, Quebec
No. 213 ‘Ceylon’ (F) Squadron
Killed in action on the 16th of August 1940
Age 20

Flight Lieutenant W. H. Nelson DFC & Bar
Mount Royal, Quebec
No. 74 ‘Trinidad’ (F) Squadron
Killed in action on the 1st of November 1940
Age 21

Flying Officer O. J. Peterson
Halifax, Nova Scotia
No. 1 (RCAF) Fighter Squadron
Killed in action on the 27th of September 1940
Age 24

Pilot Officer H. W. Reilly
London, Ontario
No. 66 (F) Squadron
Killed in action on the 17th of October 1940
Age

Pilot Officer K. M. Schlanders
Saint John, New Brunswick
No. 242 ‘Canadian’ (F) Squadron
Killed in action on the 9th of September 1940
Age

Flying Officer R. Smither
London, Ontario
No. 242 ‘Canadian’ (F) Squadron
Killed in action on the 15th of September 1940
Age 30

Pilot Officer A. A. G. Trueman
Toronto, Ontario
No. 253 ‘Hyderabad’ (F) Squadron
Killed in action on the 4th of September 1940
Age 26

Sergeant R. A. Ward
Vancouver, British Columbia
No. 66 (F) Squadron
Killed in action on the 8th of October 1940
Age 20

Pilot Officer R. R. Wilson
Moncton, New Brunswick
No. 111 (F) Squadron
Killed in action on the 11th of August 1940
Age 20

Photo Caption:

Fill’er Up

An ‘erk’ refuels a No. 1 (R.C.A.F.) Fighter Squadron Hurricane Mk. I.

[Old Dog Flying]

Thanks Chris

Per Ardua Ad Astra

Barney

[Moose47]

G'day

This is a Victory Aircraft-built Avro Lancaster B. Mk. X converted to a Mk. 10MR maritime reconnaissance Lancaster.. At the time of this accident at R.C.A.F. Station Trenton, Ontario on the 15th of January, 1952, AF*L was serving with No. 404 'Eagle' (MR) Squadron based at R.C.A.F. Station Greenwood, Nova Scotia. Today you would recognize this aircraft as the Mynarski Memorial Lancaster of the Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum. But what you might not know, is that the centre section used in the restoration of FM213, was removed from another Canadian-built Lancaster, s/n KB895. This aircraft was flown by Ronnie Jenkins of Calgary, Alberta from the 2nd of April, 1945 onwards, while serving with No. 434 'Bluenose' (B) Squadron . He flew a total of 15 operations which included five in KB213 which he and his crew nicknamed 'Lady Orchid'.

Cheers...Chris

[JMACK]

Moose any chance you got a picture of the 141 done in CF livery?

[Moose47]

G'day JMack

I'm looking around to see if I can find the photo. From what I can remember about it, it was standard white top with bare metal lower fuselage with red outer wing panels and the typical lightning bolt

Cheers...Chris