ATPL Processing Times

[human garbage]

Would it be absolutely necessary to get the times stamped ? I haven't had a single stamp since flight school :-S

Same here. Last stamp was when I got my commercial. I had no issues through the YVR office. It took almost eight weeks but no stamps required apparently.

[Matrix55]

So, I got my ATPL(H) sticker with Group IV rating in the mail today. For someone who was not in any rush to get my license I am ok with the time it took to get everything from TC.

To summarize:
Office: Winnipeg
Date ATPL(H) paperwork was given to TC: Aug 7
Date my logbook was returned to me with confirmation my application had been accepted: Sep 1
Date I received my sticker: Sep 9
So just over a month.

[midlife flyer]

From personal experience not a bad processing time overall...

Friday 31st July - Submitted the paperwork along with my logbooks at YYC Office (Sent to Winnipeg via courier the same day)

Tuesday 1st September - Received my logbooks back in the post, along with confirmation that my application had been approved and to expect my label in the mail shortly

Friday 11th September - Received my ATPL (A) Sticker

It might have been quicker but I forget to include something to prove one of the company fleet types was being operated as two crew. Thankfully, via the power of email, this issue was quickly resolved, so it probably didn't slow things down by no more than a few days.

If it had been urgent, after I'd received my logbooks back, whilst waiting for the sticker to arrive in the mail, I could have made an appointment to go into the YYC office and had my licence signed off by an inspector for $40 (they can see your licence status online), but it wasn't necessary in this case.

A pretty smooth and straight forward operation overall

[Jimmy2]

I wonder why they don't send the sticker with your logbooks.

[human garbage]

I wonder why they don't send the sticker with your logbooks.

I asked... Stickers are all printed in a central location (YOW perhaps? I forgot). They have no capacity to print them on site even if they wanted to. BS perhaps, but that was the story from two different employees (at separate times) so I took it as the truth.

[contactapproved]

Thought I'd post my experience with the Winnipeg office. Sent my logbook and application via express-post on Aug 25. Got my logbook back Sep 15th. Sticker came today (Sep 25). I thought to have everything back in exactly a month was pretty awesome. Good job Transport for shortening the wait substantially! I was told there was 11 applications before mine at the time I called just to give an idea how fast they got it out.

[C-GKNT]

Logbook and ATPL application received by Winnipeg office August 31st.

Logbook returned Sept 25.

Sticker arrived sometime between Sept 30-Oct 2 (it was in the mail when I got back from a trip).

Kudos to Transport Canada for getting on top of these applications.

Glenn

[Jimmy2]

Did you guys receive a call or email before they sent your logbooks back? I'm into week 7 now and haven't heard anything from TC. I'm hoping my stuff is in transit back to me. Did they use priority post or just regular mail?

Ontario region.

[C-GKNT]

Did you guys receive a call or email before they sent your logbooks back? I'm into week 7 now and haven't heard anything from TC. I'm hoping my stuff is in transit back to me. Did they use priority post or just regular mail?

Ontario region.

My sticker is dated September 23 and I got my logbook back by Express Post on the 25th about 4 weeks processing time. No e-mail, no letter, no explanation, just an express post envelope with my old logbook. Did not get the paper printout of my electronic logbook. I don't need it but I am curious as what they did with it. Sticker came by regular mail a week or so later. This was the Winnipeg office.

How did you pay the processing fee? I paid mine by credit card in advance and included the receipt with my application.

Glenn

[Jimmy2]

I paid in advance by credit card also. Ok, I'm hoping my stuff is on it's way to me then. That's strange that they kept your logbook printout. I mean, you can print it again but if you used inkjet that ink isn't cheap.

[flythatwing]

Application received @YWG Office on September 16th
Received my log books back September 28th
Sticker came in today October 7th.

I am pretty impressed to say the least! I had all my logbooks certified before I mailed out the application, not sure if that helped any but I am quite happy with their processing times.

[atplstudent]

Hi everyone

I am waiting for my ATPL to be processed. Its been 5 weeks now, YYZ. I do not know what takes them that much time to check my hours.

Someone know why it takes weeks to calculate simple arythmetics. If anybody works a TC, can you explain the process.

I always wonder if they take everylines of my logbook and double check it with the airplane logboog, so for that, they need to call every company I worked for during the last 8 years,and call the private owner of a plane I rented a block of hours on 6 years ago ? If so I can imagine the time, for the investigation and the reply from the company etc.
I understand that they need to check if my night time have been done following the 6 6 6 rules
What else ?



God dammit I need that ATPL sooner then later for my captain ride.

[C-GKNT]

...
I always wonder if they take everylines of my logbook and double check it with the airplane logboog, so for that, they need to call every company I worked for during the last 8 years,and call the private owner of a plane I rented a block of hours on 6 years ago ? If so I can imagine the time, for the investigation and the reply from the company etc.
I understand that they need to check if my night time have been done following the 6 6 6 rules
...

I have no clue what TC does with these applications but I suspect you are overthinking it.

~900 of my hours were in my Mooney, never got a call from TC to see the journey log. Also they could not check my night currency as I did not include the columns of my electronic logbook that included the # of take-off's/landings nor did it indicate whether when I was solo vs. carrying passengers.

Glenn

[Jimmy2]

Took my application about 9 weeks. Toronto office.

[Dizzy D]

Just submitted my logbooks today. I'll keep everyone informed on how long it takes. Fingers crossed for a quick one.

[JBI]

Application submitted Dec 29th
Phone call on Feb 4 that it was approved
Sticker arrived in the mail 2 weeks later

Went through TC Richmond. I was able to have a meeting with the licensing officer and go through the logbook with her which was great.

I didn't have my most recent entries certified (but had previous most of my previous entries certified). She did say that although it'd not required to have the entries certified, there's more credibility to them if they are certified. I took that to mean if there's something that seems a little off, a certified log book may pass muster whereas there may need to be more background checks with non-certified times.

She also mentioned that for IFR time (perhaps all time), they start from the most recent and work backwards. I had well over the amount of IFR time, but for the first two weeks of my flying career had logged all time as IFR (we filed it), but then learned pretty quickly that that's not appropriate and tried to estimate what time we were flying with reference to instruments mostly. Not an exact science. The licensing officer indicated that they are generally looking for a certain ratio of IFR time to flight time based on the type of operation. I don't like the fact that there's this type of ambiguity with regard to logging IFR time, but if you try and give an honest estimate of your IFR time you'll be good.

Overall it was a very smooth and professional process. Just understand that they have to go through your book and tick off all the boxes of the requirements. Make it as easy as possible for them. I used a few sticky tabs to help organize.

[Cat Driver]

I had well over the amount of IFR time, but for the first two weeks of my flying career had logged all time as IFR (we filed it), but then learned pretty quickly that that's not appropriate and tried to estimate what time we were flying with reference to instruments mostly. Not an exact science. The licensing officer indicated that they are generally looking for a certain ratio of IFR time to flight time based on the type of operation. I don't like the fact that there's this type of ambiguity with regard to logging IFR time, but if you try and give an honest estimate of your IFR time you'll be good.

If you are flying filed IFR in an airplane with one of those things called an auto pilot on do they want you to break down the time the autopilot was flying it IMC versus clear of cloud?

Or is all time flown IFR using the autopilot not counted period?

[Dizzy D]

My sticker was sent in the mail today! I submitted my ATPL on March 9th, sticker on April 12th. Prairie and northern region.

[coconut123]

I received the sticker today. Did you guys place it over the CPL sticker, underneath it or on page 5?

[KenoraPilot]

Never cover up a sticker!