ATPL Processing Times

[Johnnyvalrosa]

Can anyone share their recent experience, regarding wait times and TC offices used, in getting their ATPL's signed off?

More specifically, what office did you use and how long did it take?

Thanks in advance,

John

[TeePeeCreeper]

Recently, 22 days from sending in my log book/paperwork to getting a very nice courtesy call informing me that the application was successful and to ask if my address had changed in order to have my log book sent back registered post....
Everything was submitted via TC Young St....

All the best,
TPC

[Johnnyvalrosa]

Thank You!

[aycarumba]

some places take over 3 months. I recommend calling that specific transport office before applying your atpl.

[X-Savior]

Recently a friend of mine applied at the Winnipeg TC office and it has been 7 weeks and counting.

[rjonno]

I have heard the YWG office is extremely slow. Anybody had quick service at any other offices? I would consider hopping over somewhere else to get them done fast when the time comes if I knew where to go

[KK7]

It's been many years, but back when I did mine I walked my application into the Ottawa office and walked out with a signed temporary. Do they not do this anymore?

I would never send a logbook in the mail. Can you email it to them if it is electronic?

[Oxi]

I find it hard to believe that you need to send your logbook in. People may believe that the logbook is the end all but plenty keep their logbook online and just print it out.

[skypirate88]

I may have missed the region you are looking in and this is second hand info but apparently Hamilton is relatively quick.

[Krimson]

Anyone have experience with YYZ and YYC?

[MorePower!]

YYC - walked in and 20 minutes later walked out with a signed ATPL this was Feb 2014.

[loopa]

YYC - walked in and 20 minutes later walked out with a signed ATPL this was Feb 2014.

Not to stir the pot, but I find this info a bit odd. Considering TC has now phased out inspectors that just sign your booklet on a walk in and that all ATPL applications are processed by a "TECHNICAL TEAM" commencing by 40 days after application submission. Which is why I have a hard time understanding how you did it in 20 minutes, but I mean kudos to you lol.

For me it took 4 months and it was via the YWG office.

[atmosphere]

I used the YWG office, it took them 3 months to process it (including X-Mas/New Year holidays). Submitted my application and a copy of my electronic logbook in early Nov. 2013, got my ATPL first week of Feb. 2014. Pretty straight forward. When I submitted it they warned me that they had a 3 month backlog, on top of the 40 business days that they claim the processing may take. Not sure if it's faster now.

Good luck!

[kev994]

YWG just told me it would take at least a couple months to process an instrument rating and a type rating. I don't see how it can be any different than a multi-engine rating that yyz processed in 5 mins a few years ago... Budget cuts...

[KenoraPilot]

I walked mine into YWG since giving it to the YYC office, they will just mail it off to YWG anyways. Took me 4.5 weeks and had my ATPL and logbook back in hand.

[daver747]

I Just did mine at the YYZ office on young street and they completed it in 15 days.

[Colonel Sanders]

I'm not sure I always fully comprehend this
"progress" thing that gigahertz technology
provides.

Twenty years ago, I got in the Maule, flew
to the now-closed TC Kingston office with my
logbooks, filled out a form, and left about an
hour later (with my logbooks) with an ATPL.

[ant_321]

Just off the phone with the Atlantic office and they told me about another 40 business days for mine and it's already been there for almost 3 weeks

[Colonel Sanders]

Perspective:

20 years ago, CPU processor speed was measured
in megaHz. Now it's gigaHz. Similarly, CPU memory
was megabytes. Now gigabytes. And communication
speeds have moved from kilobits to megabits.

Spot the pattern? Technology (which powers paperwork)
has improved by three decimal orders of magnitude
in both processor speed, memory size and communications
speed.

ATPL processing time used to be 1/4 day, 20 years ago.
Now it is 30 days (pick a number).

TC efficiency has decreased a factor of

1000 x (30 / 0.25) = 120,000 times in 20 years.

Think about that. This does not bode well for the
future. Given an asymptotic levelling off of Moore's
Law, I am not sure if we can count on another 1000x
increase in CPU speed, memory and communications
in the next 20 years.

This means that if we linearly extrapolate TC
efficiency, with the same computing power as
today, in 20 years an ATPL application is going
to take

30 x 120,000 = 3.6 million days or almost 10,000 years.

Let's hope I'm wrong about Moore's law.

[jump154]

30 x 120,000 = 3.6 million days or almost 10,000 years.

Well, that will help limit the supply of Pilots, and therefore drive up wages. Should keep the union/college guys happy..