Descent restriction

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Descent restriction

#1 Post by nohojob » Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:59 pm

So, last clearance is : cross xyz at 11000. I am now 10 miles from xyz at 13000 and atc clears me to another waypoint further down the arrival without giving me any altitude restriction.
Shall I stop my descent at 11000 eventhough the waypoint is not on my route anymore ?

Other case, atc now put me on a heading without specifying another altitude.
Still 11000 altitude applies ?
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Re: Descent restriction

#2 Post by photofly » Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:03 pm

"say altitude restriction"....
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Re: Descent restriction

#3 Post by parrot_head » Wed Feb 24, 2016 3:12 pm

The altitude restriction applies to the waypoint, if you are given an amended route that does not include the waypoint then the restriction doesn't apply.
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Re: Descent restriction

#4 Post by nohojob » Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:15 am

So if I was given a heading, I need ATC to give me a new restriction, or if They give me a waypoint on the arrival, I just have to follow the arrival then.
Right ?
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Re: Descent restriction

#5 Post by parrot_head » Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:21 am

A vector effectively cancels the STAR so any restrictions will no longer apply.

If you are then given a waypoint on the arrival the controller, if requiring you to re-intercept the STAR profile, should say something like "proceed dct xxxx on course", at/after that waypoint, any restrictions would apply.

A few years ago Nav Canada published an RNAV phraseology guide that may help.

http://www.navcanada.ca/EN/products-and ... eology.pdf
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Re: Descent restriction

#6 Post by nohojob » Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:40 pm

Thanks !
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