Surveillance Service vs Radar Service

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Cessna 180
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Surveillance Service vs Radar Service

#1 Post by Cessna 180 » Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:17 pm

I was wondering when and why controllers changed from saying "radar identified" and "radar service terminates" to "identified" and "surveillance service terminates?" (mind you the odd, usually center, controller still says radar) Does this stem from the expectation that ADS-B will become available outside of the polar routes areas in the future?

a side note, i've heard a few controllers (as recently as yesterday in the edmonton fir) using "radar contact" like the US. is this acceptable or are they kinda just doing their own thing?
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Re: Surveillance Service vs Radar Service

#2 Post by Mayor_McCheese » Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:09 pm

Cessna 180 wrote:I was wondering when and why controllers changed from saying "radar identified" and "radar service terminates" to "identified" and "surveillance service terminates?" (mind you the odd, usually center, controller still says radar) Does this stem from the expectation that ADS-B will become available outside of the polar routes areas in the future?
I believe the change was made back in March or April of this year, at the same time we did away with MANOPS. And yes, it's because going forward there will be fewer services provided by actual "radar" stations. i.e. more ADS-B and whatever else the future holds.
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Re: Surveillance Service vs Radar Service

#3 Post by Spacedork » Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:00 pm

Radar contact is a hold over. Some can't get rid of the old terminology. It's still valid if not necessarily "correct".
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