Yep, I stand corrected.We use MVA's in a non terminal environment daily.
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Didn't mean to imply that the departures wouldn't be procedural based...just a lot quicker to get the next aircraft a clearance valid if the proceeding aircraft was under radar control immediately after becoming airborne, ie. not having to wait for him to climb through 4000' etc.
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Orlando Jones - Say It Isn't So
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I occasionally tune to YXL via Live ATC and it's just like listening to YTS and YYB radio with their own 'rules' for their aerodome. Sometimes the YTS guys may not update the ATIS for whatever reason it is. Here's a question, if a special goes out for IFR conditions and shortly after, VFR conditions prevail, why wait for the top of the hour to update? Why not throw out another special for VFR conditions?
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Workload permitting, the ATIS cannot be updated with every SPECIAL that comes out like it should be. FSS MANOPS has criteria for when the ATIS has to be updated. And the Manual of Observations (MANOBS) FSS use as the bible for weather observations states when a special is to be input. But if the position that inputs the ATIS (at a stand-alone sight) is busy, priority of duty comes to play. Do I record the ATIS or do I assist in solving this head-to-head conflictjonathan_tcu wrote:Here's a question, if a special goes out for IFR conditions and shortly after, VFR conditions prevail, why wait for the top of the hour to update? Why not throw out another special for VFR conditions?
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FREEFALL wrote:Workload permitting, the ATIS cannot be updated with every SPECIAL that comes out like it should be. FSS MANOPS has criteria for when the ATIS has to be updated. And the Manual of Observations (MANOBS) FSS use as the bible for weather observations states when a special is to be input. But if the position that inputs the ATIS (at a stand-alone sight) is busy, priority of duty comes to play. Do I record the ATIS or do I assist in solving this head-to-head conflictjonathan_tcu wrote:Here's a question, if a special goes out for IFR conditions and shortly after, VFR conditions prevail, why wait for the top of the hour to update? Why not throw out another special for VFR conditions?
I agree with that. Long story made short, when I know our FSS is handling aircrafts right at obs. time, the obs IS put on hold and the ATIS can be updated as late as 15 min's past the hour and I'll see Obs taken + 15 in the METAR.
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