Ground Hold for IFR traffic?? WTF?

Doc · Post by **Doc** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:12 pm

Yesterday we were informed of a ground hold of all IFR traffic out of YQK for at least thirty minutes....I have never run across this before...anybody care to shed some light on this? Did everybody at YWG ATC call in sick. or what?

zzjayca · Post by **zzjayca** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:33 pm

It took me all of 10 seconds to find the pertinent NOTAM.

060228 CZWG WINNIPEG FIR
CZWG CANADIAN AUTOMATED AIR TRAFFIC SYSTEM (CAATS) SHALL BE
IMPLEMENTED AT WINNIPEG ACC SOMETIME AFTER 0606030500. DUE TO THIS
MAJOR SYSTEM UPGRADE AN OPR READINESS DEMONSTRATION (ORD) SHALL BE
CONDUCTED FOR APRX 10 DAYS FOLLOWING IMPLEMENTATION. TO SUPPORT
THE ORD, USERS MAY ANTICIPATE THE FOLLOWING 1100-0600 DLY:

1. WESTBOUND AND EASTBOUND DOM TFC:
MAY BE SUBJECT TO ENR SPACING PROGRAM (ESP),
MAY INCLUDE TACTICAL REROUTES AND/OR CONTROLLED DEP TIMES
TO ENSURE 20 NM IN TRAIL AT SAME ALT THRU WINNIPEG FIR,
MAY BE SUBJECT TO REROUTES THRU U.S. AIRSPACE.
2. NORTHBOUND AND SOUTHBOUND NORTH ATLANTIC EUROPEAN (NAT) AND
ALASKA/ASIA (PAC) TFC MAY BE SUBJECT TO REROUTES AROUND THE
WINNIPEG FIR.
3. DEP IN THE WINNIPEG FIR MAY ENCOUNTER DELAYS OF MORE THAN 15
MIN AND ALT RESTRICTIONS.
4. POLAR ROUTES WILL NOT BE AFFECTED.
A TELECON WILL BE HELD AT 0100 AND 1145 JUN 03, 2006 AND 1145 DLY
JUN 04-14 2006 ON THE NATIONAL OPS CENTRE (NOC) CONFERENCE BRIDGE:
416-621-1587 PIN 6125645 FOR FURTHER INFO CTC THE NOC DURING
PERIOD 1100-0600 DLY: 613-248-4087/CANADA 866-651-9053/USA 866-
651-9056. 0606030100 TIL 0606141130

ahramin · Post by **ahramin** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:20 am

What ... Doc check NOTAMs? He's been flying since we were all in diapers, he doesn't need to do that! Once you are half as experienced as Doc you figure out to "JUST FLY THE PLANE, NEVER MIND SILLY THINGS LIKE NOTAMS!!! JEEZ YOU KIDS WITH YOUR FANCY WAYS OF DOING THINGS!"

grimey · Post by **grimey** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:21 am

Anyone got a picture of the C-130 in Afghanistan?

flyinhigh · Post by **flyinhigh** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:50 am

Doing an upgrade, but getting delays like that. mmmmm what kinda system is that.

On a dumber note, I don't think that I quite understand on what there doing here to the system. Can a controller clear it up thanks.

Murphy · Post by **Murphy** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:04 pm

cpl_atc wrote: On top of an already busy morning, there were some issues on Saturday that necessitated the slowdown...

Any Staffing problems? Would there be any "Contact positions" coming up? You know, for that "busy" winter season? I know of a recently retired "East Low" pusher who might answer his phone........ But if he doesn't pick up have DOC buzz his place a couple of times to wake him up!

charlie_g · Post by **charlie_g** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:23 am

Murphy wrote:Any Staffing problems? Would there be any "Contact positions" coming up? You know, for that "busy" winter season? I know of a recently retired "East Low" pusher who might answer his phone........ But if he doesn't pick up have DOC buzz his place a couple of times to wake him up!

What's a "contact position"?

pokaroo · Post by **pokaroo** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:13 am

pretty sure he means contract position

Doc · Post by **Doc** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:12 pm

What's a "NOTAM"???? Actually even I check them....but I admit NOT always! I was VFR that day...and just curious. But I have never run across it before. At least get it right!!! It's the WEATHER I never check!!!

Murphy · Post by **Murphy** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:00 am

charlie_g wrote:
What's a "contact position"?

Pokaroo figured it out........... I have got to start proof reading my posts.......