Arguing cut from recruiting thread: fight here if you must

[KAFUFO]

with the clowns on the mic's at YWG their is no way they have an 8% success rate unless they only gave out applications at Bellville mental institution!!!!!

[Braun]

Just go away if you aren't going to say anything constructive.

[KAFUFO]

Just go away if you aren't going to say anything constructive.

Alright YWG controlers the next time thompson Wx goes to shiit and you think your a termanil controller do everyone a favor and ask inbounds to vector themself they'll do a hell of alot better job.

Terminal controllers- learn how to squese more airplanes into the space available, every other Terminal approach seems to do it WTF can't you

Tower- stop dressing like a ............ a never mind said it to many times.

ground your the only one who does a good job

ATIS - STFU winds/alt/vis/ceiling that's it, don't give me all this shit about birds migrating and so on

Think that's a starting point, can you go from there

[KAFUFO]

Top 8%

[Offset]

http://takecharge.navcanada.ca/index.php

Here's your big chance KAFUFO, why don't you show us all how its done.

[Braun]

The information you mention about the ATIS is required by directives.

[KAFUFO]

The information you mention about the ATIS is required by directives.

I'm sure when the decision to include that garbage was made it sounded lie a real good idea.

[W0XOF]

KAF. Maybe you should get Transport to come up with specific directives just for you. Being the uber pilot and all..............

You can't forget these things are being done to the lowest common denominator and for liability etc. What you find as an inconvenience, may be important to another "less skilled" (that's a knock by the way) or unfamiliar pilot.

[ywgatc]

Alright YWG controlers the next time thompson Wx goes to shiit and you think your a termanil controller do everyone a favor and ask inbounds to vector themself they'll do a hell of alot better job.

You're an idiot. Care to share who you fly with, I'll just make sure you get a hold next time. Then for spacing I'll clear you for the full procedure ILS/DME 05, descending to 25nm safe (2600') established in the hold. Apparently that's a better option than our vectoring.

[thatdaveguy]

Alright YWG controlers the next time thompson Wx goes to shiit and you think your a termanil controller do everyone a favor and ask inbounds to vector themself they'll do a hell of alot better job.

You're an idiot. Care to share who you fly with, I'll just make sure you get a hold next time. Then for spacing I'll clear you for the full procedure ILS/DME 05, descending to 25nm safe (2600') established in the hold. Apparently that's a better option than our vectoring.

kafufo always has plenty negative to say while hiding who he works for. big man behind a little screen.

[KAFUFO]

is that really going to be slower than the 15 mile finals that you tend to use????? or when requesting a short gate and needing to be told about turn anticipation from the flight crew??????

If nothing else you sound like your in the top 8%

[Pygmie]

is that really going to be slower than the 15 mile finals that you tend to use????? or when requesting a short gate and needing to be told about turn anticipation from the flight crew??????

If nothing else you sound like your in the top 8%

Do you even have a clue what rules and procedures air traffic controllers operate under? As a pilot I'm sure you've read our operations manual cover to cover, and could do a much better job. . .

[KAFUFO]

Do you even have a clue what rules and procedures air traffic controllers operate under? As a pilot I'm sure you've read our operations manual cover to cover, and could do a much better job. . .

Hey, I'm not trying to offend anyone here all I know is if theirs an accent on the radio all of a sudden gates are short restrictions are lifted and the system works. now if you would stop taking these arguments as personal attacks and maybe go sit with your supervisor he might just show you how he makes my life easier..............and you won't find others who fly into YWG arguing that point.

your operating rules...no I don't know them

Your opperating ability.... I see it every day

[IFRATC]

KAF,
Do you even have a F%$K'IN clue of what is going on? You don't only have NO spatial awareness but rather NO CONCEPT of ATC operations whatsoever. What other ACC's have you flown through? Who the F%$K made you the Unit Operations and Procedures Specialist in YWG ACC? All you do is rag at YWG controllers. Take your anger and your little D%CK down below 12,500 stay VFR and F&*K off.
You won't give up who you fly for because you're a little coward and secondly because you're an embaressment for who you fly for (If any).
I work in YYZ. Worked YWG a long time ago. Please someone from YWG stand up and explain to this simplton why it is necessary for YWG TCU to have a gate system so that this moron can fly safely everday in and out of there. Explain why not having parallel runways makes it harder to judge dual runway operations and why spacing is increased on final.
I would really like to know who you fly for because I would NEVER step into an aircraft knowing that a moronic idiot whose simplton rants such as yours exemplify how stupid and UNPROFESSIONAL you truly are. Your pyschotic mind believes that you know how the ATC system works and it makes me laugh. My anger is directed towards your clueless slagging of my colleugues. You are not fit to ride a F$%KING bike, let alone fly an aircraft. Wait....don't hop on your pilot pedestal just yet loser. I to have many years of flying experience as well, mostly Military. I have NEVER encountered a pilot who is as big a coward or moron as yourself. Do everyone a favour. Take the ATC test with all that frothing knowledge you possess so that we can all laugh at YOU as you fail not only the APTITUDE but the ATTITUDE as well. F$CK OFF MORON!!!

IFRATC

[KAFUFO]

KAF,
Do you even have a F%$K'IN clue of what is going on? You don't only have NO spatial awareness but rather NO CONCEPT of ATC operations whatsoever. What other ACC's have you flown through? Who the F%$K made you the Unit Operations and Procedures Specialist in YWG ACC? All you do is rag at YWG controllers. Take your anger and your little D%CK down below 12,500 stay VFR and F&*K off.
You won't give up who you fly for because you're a little coward and secondly because you're an embaressment for who you fly for (If any).
I work in YYZ. Worked YWG a long time ago. Please someone from YWG stand up and explain to this simplton why it is necessary for YWG TCU to have a gate system so that this moron can fly safely everday in and out of there. Explain why not having parallel runways makes it harder to judge dual runway operations and why spacing is increased on final.
I would really like to know who you fly for because I would NEVER step into an aircraft knowing that a moronic idiot whose simplton rants such as yours exemplify how stupid and UNPROFESSIONAL you truly are. Your pyschotic mind believes that you know how the ATC system works and it makes me laugh. My anger is directed towards your clueless slagging of my colleugues. You are not fit to ride a F$%KING bike, let alone fly an aircraft. Wait....don't hop on your pilot pedestal just yet loser. I to have many years of flying experience as well, mostly Military. I have NEVER encountered a pilot who is as big a coward or moron as yourself. Do everyone a favour. Take the ATC test with all that frothing knowledge you possess so that we can all laugh at YOU as you fail not only the APTITUDE but the ATTITUDE as well. F$CK OFF MORON!!!

IFRATC
KAF,
Do you even have a F%$K'IN clue of what is going on? You don't only have NO spatial awareness but rather NO CONCEPT of ATC operations whatsoever. What other ACC's have you flown through? Who the F%$K made you the Unit Operations and Procedures Specialist in YWG ACC? All you do is rag at YWG controllers. Take your anger and your little D%CK down below 12,500 stay VFR and F&*K off.
You won't give up who you fly for because you're a little coward and secondly because you're an embaressment for who you fly for (If any).
I work in YYZ. Worked YWG a long time ago. Please someone from YWG stand up and explain to this simplton why it is necessary for YWG TCU to have a gate system so that this moron can fly safely everday in and out of there. Explain why not having parallel runways makes it harder to judge dual runway operations and why spacing is increased on final.
I would really like to know who you fly for because I would NEVER step into an aircraft knowing that a moronic idiot whose simplton rants such as yours exemplify how stupid and UNPROFESSIONAL you truly are. Your pyschotic mind believes that you know how the ATC system works and it makes me laugh. My anger is directed towards your clueless slagging of my colleugues. You are not fit to ride a F$%KING bike, let alone fly an aircraft. Wait....don't hop on your pilot pedestal just yet loser. I to have many years of flying experience as well, mostly Military. I have NEVER encountered a pilot who is as big a coward or moron as yourself. Do everyone a favour. Take the ATC test with all that frothing knowledge you possess so that we can all laugh at YOU as you fail not only the APTITUDE but the ATTITUDE as well. F$CK OFF MORON!!!

IFRATC

so you don't work there, you don't fly there...........thanks this might help http://www.tourettes-disorder.com/home.html

I still don't here anyone who fly's into YWG on a regular basis standing up and saying............well anything.

there just might be a silent majority here IFRATC. the statments I make arn't about the restrictions themselves there about the entire center having one reliable dependable quality controller who has a plan to keep everyone as tight as possible and doesen't screw up and either thow LAHS 2 miles final when you were planning a long landing, switch runways on you three times or the ultimate. This isn't going to work out climb runway heading to 4000' stay with me. first of all yes I can LAHS secondly I can deal with runway changes but if I'm trying to land why the @#$! do I want to climb to 4000'.

It's great that your a pilot but if you do these three things on a regular basis I as well as every other pilot who flies in your sector will start reffering to you as a fucking idiot who shoulden't be allowed on the mike.

[IFRATC]

Read the post loser. I DID work there for many years. To paraphrase your last post, you don't seem to give a rats ass about anyones opinion except your own retarded one. You disqualify any experience I have as a rebuttal, yet in the same post you qualify yourself as a controller who discredits everyone minus ones, competency. Don't think for a second that you have any knowledge of ATC procedures because of your glorified bus drivers licence. You shame everyone else on here because of your moronic oubursts of aviation wisdom. Care to comment on why NO one (pilots) are backing you up on this thread? Because you embaress them all @#$! head.

IFRATC

[KAFUFO]

Care to comment on why NO one (pilots) are backing you up on this thread? Because you embaress them all @#$! head.

so why doesn't one of them say I have recived decent service on a consitant basis????, not one person who has seen any threads that I have spoke of the problems has ever stood up and said I am wrong...........Not sure if you saw my post on the torando that hit Ellie mb, but I was flying at the time and listened in while multiple diversions and vectoring waas nessicary.

I was the first one on this fourm who gave thanks for the amazing service. Have I flowen in other sectors, yes. on a regular basis, yes. You can call me all the names you want and lie to me about YWG...just don't lie to yourself about your skills and abillitys after all.... lifes hang in the balance.

[Cat Driver]

IFRATC best to ignore him.

Every time he hits a key on his computer he makes it look like all pilots are mentally deficient.

KAFUFO you are making it difficult for pilots to be thought of as anything above the moron level.

[IFRATC]

Cat Driver,
Thank you for instilling the fact that it is only a very small percentage of pilots who think (used losely) like KAF.

KAF,
In YYZ we move alot of airplanes, so your childish comments about what you percieve my skill set to be means @#$! all to me. I really couldn't care less. I am the first to acknowledge that this board has some very constructive discussions on it, but whenever you begin to type it generally goes to shit.
Remember way back (or recently) when you first started flying? Was it then that you made yourself Captain Aviation the Superhero of all things de vol? Surely you must have frothed and cringed from the right seat at all those left seaters who of course were INFERIOR to you? What could they have possibly been thinking during critical times of judgement? Oh but never fear I am positive you imparted them with your knowledge, the subordinate captains they were!! "Never fear this is your first officer CAPTAIN AVIATION speaking. I hope you enjoy your flight today. I will not only be your first officer, but captain, and air traffic controller for this flight. Please everyone, sit back and enjoy your flight because I know everything. Thank you for flying MORONIC Airways".
Maybe, just maybe there is alot of training going on in YWG. Not everyone uses bare minimum spacing to have there asshole pucker for 8 and 1/2 hours a shift because you rant about how shitty you think YWG controllers might be.

IFRATC

[Cat Driver]

Cat Driver,
Thank you for instilling the fact that it is only a very small percentage of pilots who think (used losely) like KA

No problem IFRATC we are all in this business together and seldom do we see members of this community that bring shame on the group as a whole, when we do we should isolate them if possible.

KAF is not really worth getting upset over because we really don't know who it is anyhow.

In the grand scheme of things I have come to understand that it is all upside down when it comes to the general perception the public has of the members of the aviation community.

Pilots are closer to the bottom of the pile compared to ATC people and aircraft mechanics.