Where are the PAR approaches?
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Where are the PAR approaches?
Before you ask - Yes, I realize they are an old approach. But does anyone know of an operational PAR approach near Ontario?
I've wanted to try one for a while now, and had a trip all planned out to Trenton only to find out they don't do PAR approaches anymore!
Are these approaches completely gone everywhere? Or does anyone in ATC know where they could be done?
Thanks in advance!
I've wanted to try one for a while now, and had a trip all planned out to Trenton only to find out they don't do PAR approaches anymore!
Are these approaches completely gone everywhere? Or does anyone in ATC know where they could be done?
Thanks in advance!
Re: Where are the PAR approaches?
Bagotville had one last I checked, but so did Trenton...
Re: Where are the PAR approaches?
No more in YBG, YTR or YQQ. They were replaced by a second ILS. Greenwood, Cold Lake, Moose Jaw still have theirs. Goose Bay is getting theirs down.
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Re: Where are the PAR approaches?
Both YBG and YTR discontinued their PAR approaches recently. It is no longer offered. As the OP said, they are old school approaches, and the equipment needed to provide such a service is probably outdated. Maintenance costs were probably up there as well, for little or no usage.kev994 wrote:Bagotville had one last I checked, but so did Trenton...
Better for the taxpayer this way !
Thenoflyzone
Re: Where are the PAR approaches?
Thanks AuxBatOn (and kev994, thenoflyzone)!
I guess I'll have to take a trip out there sometime this summer!AuxBatOn wrote:Greenwood, Cold Lake, Moose Jaw still have theirs.
Re: Where are the PAR approaches?
Still the best approach. As long as you can control the aircraft, you can get in. And it's the easiest approach there is...
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Re: Where are the PAR approaches?
Probably the most accurate approach possible, but then I'm biased because I was one of the GCA guys with nearly 10,000 approaches. When the Wx went T/U in Europe we still managed to give a helping hand using the old Gilfillan MPN11 Precision radar.
When all else failed we were there..
Barney
When all else failed we were there..
Barney
Re: Where are the PAR approaches?
Not sure what happened to my first reply post.
I was fortunate enough to have been able to do a PAR approach some years back at Trenton. I was under the hood, (I had a check pilot with me), and it was the most straight forward approach I had ever done. When I lifted the hood, (about 200 ft from touchdown), I was only inches off runway centerline. Powered up into an overshoot. All you have to do is listen to the controller (no talking back on the radio) and do as they say. "5 degrees left, increase rate of descent, 2 degrees right, etc, etc" Great experience.
I was fortunate enough to have been able to do a PAR approach some years back at Trenton. I was under the hood, (I had a check pilot with me), and it was the most straight forward approach I had ever done. When I lifted the hood, (about 200 ft from touchdown), I was only inches off runway centerline. Powered up into an overshoot. All you have to do is listen to the controller (no talking back on the radio) and do as they say. "5 degrees left, increase rate of descent, 2 degrees right, etc, etc" Great experience.