AW109 v. AW139

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AW109 v. AW139

#1 Post by ArcticKat » Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:18 am

Does anyone know the operating costs per hour for the 139? I've tried googling it and have come up empty. The 109 looks to be anywhere between $500 - $700, but I can't find anything for the 139.
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Re: AW109 v. AW139

#2 Post by r22captain » Mon Jan 24, 2011 8:19 am

can't even compare......139 "retails" for $8-10,000 an hour roughly. Not sure on the exact operating cost.
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Re: AW109 v. AW139

#3 Post by ArcticKat » Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:54 am

Well, I've tacked on an extra $1,000/hr for airframe replacement near the 10,000 hour TTSN. So a 109 should cost about $1,700/hr for fuel, maintenance, TBO, replacement, and a 10% contingency reserve. What would I be missing?
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Re: AW109 v. AW139

#4 Post by r22captain » Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:11 pm

that sounds about right, but having never flown a 109 I couldn't tell you if that's the going rate or not. Not a lot of them in Canada.
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Re: AW109 v. AW139

#5 Post by The Mole » Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:56 pm

Its apple to oranges. Those aircraft are each in a totally different class.

Usually 10% of the purchase price will give you a charter rate.
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Re: AW109 v. AW139

#6 Post by helicopterray » Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:03 am

No, 0.1% of new purchase price gives you tariff rate.

A $1 million Helicopter rents out for $1000/hour.

A $10 million helicopter rents out for $10 000/hour.
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Re: AW109 v. AW139

#7 Post by ArcticKat » Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:29 am

Thanks for the info, but I'm looking at costs for operation, not costs for renting.
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Re: AW109 v. AW139

#8 Post by r22captain » Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:43 pm

call Agusta??
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Re: AW109 v. AW139

#9 Post by ArcticKat » Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:15 pm

r22captain wrote:call Agusta??
Always a consideration, but I was hoping for realistic numbers, not propagana tripe.
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Re: AW109 v. AW139

#10 Post by r22captain » Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:10 am

haha good point.
might be hard to get any good numbers here in Canada.
London Air Service is the only real charter operator.
Orange is an example of throwing bags of money out the window at 140 kts
and CHL leases one from Era when required.
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