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Crazy landing

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Re: Why? I don't get it.

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I like it. Seemed like a very efficient way to loose altitude quickly. Seems like he really knows how to manage his energy.
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2:32 on Jesus!!
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Looked like a run of the mill tactical descent to me. :)
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Flying skydivers certainly gives pilots lots of take-off and landings and good stick and rudder skills. That landing looks about par for the course :D . I miss dumping jumpers.
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Jumper dumping is very boring and repetitive. I
guess you have to do something to amuse yourself.

Bonus points for taxiing in before they touched down!
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Anyone else notice that that fuzzy thing he has hanging kept pointing straight down during all that maneuvering?
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That is sure looks cool.

I hope he is the owner, otherwise I would beat his @ss and make him pay for all the gyros. There is no need to go upside down or to do more than 60 degres banking during paradrop.
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I was reading the comments on the video. Seems that he is the owner afterall.
The aircraft is this DO-28.

And it is not in Brazil.
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old_man wrote:Anyone else notice that that fuzzy thing he has hanging kept pointing straight down during all that maneuvering?
I noticed that too. Not bad!! The only point where it deviated was on that slight outbound turn away from the runway just before touchdown.
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Is there a video of him landing out of a
split-s entered directly overhead the runway
at pattern altitude? That would be a neat trick,
esp if both props were in beta,
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Not a split s landing, but a video view of the original post from the ground.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d7d_1355730953
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Landing out of a loop (same direction) or half
reverse cuban-8 (direction reversal) entered
from the surface has always been a favorite of
mine. Requires some runway, though - 150 mph
exiting a loop is pretty slow. 160+ is more typical
and that's pretty speedy over the threshold.
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Machism, no matter how good and skillful you are (and he is skillful) do not forgive up there.

This is a cool video, and his steep descents I can understand because after all, paradrop is a business. But 60+ degree bank turns at treetop on EVERY landing.... :roll: really?

If you loose an engine at that moment, you better be quick, or you'll be a sorry Hipster.

To all the newly licenced commercial pilots that would be tempted to try that kind of low level manoeuvres, think again.

I'm not saying not to have fun with the airplane, because we all did. I'm just saying be smart. Get some space between you and the deck and then have fun.

(didnt mean to piss in the corn flakes here dudes, just a reality check. That guy probably has thousands of hours on that machine, maybe he is ex military, maybe he is Bob Hoover's clone etc etc..)

On a personal note: ugliest plane ever.

Cheers.
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If you loose an engine at that moment
Not sure they're developing much thrust during the approach
ugliest plane ever
Uglier than an MU-2?
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All diverdrivers have fun in flight, it's not boring at all. But we don't need to do an airshow or to fly the plane to the limits (and above...) to have fun.
I have heard from him in Europe and seen over videos; one day he will break his plane, I only hope he will be alone on board.

And nobody noticed that this guy doesn't have his harness?
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Colonel Sanders wrote:
If you loose an engine at that moment
Not sure they're developing much thrust during the approach
ugliest plane ever
Uglier than an MU-2?

When youre at 60 degrees bank at treetop, even if you are at flight idle, loosing an engine can be a distraction, and it takes only a brief moment of inattention at that moment to let it slip and end up as a burning pile of aluminum and jet fuel. like I said, better be quick. My point here is that it's unsafe because the AGL value is so low.

I'd probably find it less dangerous if he did it with both his props feathered.

Yeah I think its uglier than a mu2 :D
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The steep turn has purpose. Some of the comments indicate there are pilots which do not understand how to use induced drag to control the speed of the aircraft. Notice how he went from a high speed on downwind and nailed his final approach speed as he rolled level on final.
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Xander wrote:If you loose an engine at that moment, you better be quick, or you'll be a sorry Hipster.
Xander wrote:When youre at 60 degrees bank at treetop, even if you are at flight idle, loosing an engine can be a distraction,
Okay, I overlooked it the first time because I thought it might be a typo. I was mistaken.

Go look up the difference between the words loose and lose please.
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FlyGy wrote:
Go look up the difference between the words loose and lose please.
In all fairness if the engine does somehow work itself loose you will probably end up losing it. :mrgreen:
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there are pilots which do not understand how to use induced drag to control the speed of the aircraft. Notice how he went from a high speed on downwind and nailed his final approach speed as he rolled level on final
He's flying a simple variation on the overhead break.

For example, I fly overhead the runway at pattern altitude
(1500 AGL) at 250 knots, crank it around level and I'm at
180 knots on downwind, which is the gear speed.

Unfortunately it is true that pulling G creates drag. A lot of
it. If that were not true, I could perform a much more
interesting airshow routine!
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Unfortunately it is true that pulling G creates drag. A lot of
it. If that were not true, I could perform a much more
interesting airshow routine!
I understand that is one of the reasons for different wingtip shapes on Pitts'. To increase aileron size (roll rate) and to try and improve "efficiency" when pulling G. Now I don't know if that is true or not, but I recall hearing or reading that somewhere down the line.

Now, here is a question for the good Colonel on this subject. I read once, a long time ago, that when doing aerobatics in a Citabria, you will not overspeed the aircraft if you are pulling at least 3.5-4G. The article mentioned that on a hammerhead recovery or backside of a loop or whatever, that even a full throttle, passing through straight down, if you have a 4G pull, the aircraft will not accelerate betond 120mph due to that induced drag. Is this true, or even close to fact????? Sounds reasonable to me what with the big wing and draggy airframe of a Citabria, but I am curious.
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I can't say what the numbers are for the citabria are, but putting a load on the wings is an excellent way to control speed without closing the throttle. All it takes to recover from my location is to roll level out of the turn to reduce the drag, after all the thing became airborne in the first place.
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It is true - there is incredible drag at high G.

It is easily demonstrated - put on +6G in a
level turn, even with full throttle, and you
will rapidly come to a stop.

Some reading: www.pittspecials.com/articles/airspeed_radius.htm

Quite often during my airshow routine I am in a vertical
downline at 500 feet, pointing straight at the ground.

How I recover with minimum loss of altitude is FULL THROTTLE
and max structural (design) G. Full power is used to overcome
the drag of the high G in the descent and help keep the speed up
to corner on the Vg envelope during the recovery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcy4ZhGHHaE
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