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Chorus/Ggn/Sky merge

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Is Chorus buying sky regional and ggn and merging it all under one Air Canada Express company?

What is the likelihood of this with Sky being moments away from certification, and then, what would a merger look like among all three ?
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Re: Chorus/Ggn/Sky merge

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They should merge, but if course then how could AC undercut one another using each other?

If they do, AC will guaranteed start looking for other companies to do the flying for less, just to keep costs down at chorus.
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Re: Chorus/Ggn/Sky merge

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FL007 wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:57 am They should merge, but if course then how could AC undercut one another using each other?

If they do, AC will guaranteed start looking for other companies to do the flying for less, just to keep costs down at chorus.
Maybe, but they have cost certainty until 2025 with chorus. I'd be surprised to see a merger, but this business seldom makes sense.

Personally, I wouldn't put much thought into it. If it were to happen, it's not likely that you'll be able to do anything about it anyways.
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Re: Chorus/Ggn/Sky merge

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skypirate88 wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:02 am
FL007 wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:57 am They should merge, but if course then how could AC undercut one another using each other?

If they do, AC will guaranteed start looking for other companies to do the flying for less, just to keep costs down at chorus.
Maybe, but they have cost certainty until 2025 with chorus. I'd be surprised to see a merger, but this business seldom makes sense.

Personally, I wouldn't put much thought into it. If it were to happen, it's not likely that you'll be able to do anything about it anyways.
No exactly.
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Re: Chorus/Ggn/Sky merge

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wouldn't be surprised. they all met yesterday at the air canada hangar in YYZ for ''maintenance '' :P.
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Re: Chorus/Ggn/Sky merge

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My guess is very likely and imminent...
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Re: Chorus/Ggn/Sky merge

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It would be great I think :)!
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Re: Chorus/Ggn/Sky merge

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Could AC be behind an Express merger as a way to mitigate manpower shortages in the industry ?
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Re: Chorus/Ggn/Sky merge

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Who or what is Chorus?
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Re: Chorus/Ggn/Sky merge

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digits_ wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:06 am Who or what is Chorus?
The company that owns jazz.
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Re: Chorus/Ggn/Sky merge

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Well Sky just certified under ALPA... so it would be a rather easy merger I suppose.
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Re: Chorus/Ggn/Sky merge

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No it won't and we've spoken about this before. Russ Payson and Calin have different motives and a merger would not be beneficial to them. The tone will begin to slowly change around here, it'll be a rough but welcome transition.

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Re: Chorus/Ggn/Sky merge

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:rolleyes:
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Re: Chorus/Ggn/Sky merge

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What???!!! You can change to Fahrenheit??!!
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Re: Chorus/Ggn/Sky merge

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Can someone please give the slightest reason why this would happen?
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Re: Chorus/Ggn/Sky merge

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New government legislation coming in that is going to make companies that contract flip eg CPA to CPA pay the same wage and keep people retaining their longevity for pay and vacation. C-86 I believe.

See contract retendering

http://www.mondaq.com/canada/x/753052/e ... egislation
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Re: Chorus/Ggn/Sky merge

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SKR has only signed the cards. Not sure they've certified yet.

However, I doubt AC would try and pull a fast one on them and push or force a purchase/merge. They could however downsize SKR and hand Jazz a bunch of the embraers, as they did to us by giving GGN our old tired 200s.

You'd be more likely to see GGN get snagged than SKR.

AC doesn't want a repeat of what happened previously, with only one regional dictating their wages and conditions.
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Re: Chorus/Ggn/Sky merge

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fish4life wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:03 pm New government legislation coming in that is going to make companies that contract flip eg CPA to CPA pay the same wage and keep people retaining their longevity for pay and vacation. C-86 I believe.

See contract retendering

http://www.mondaq.com/canada/x/753052/e ... egislation
So would that mean the boys and girls at Jazz/GGN would be getting a raise? Sky FO's starting out get $49.35 and Jazz is $38 something
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Re: Chorus/Ggn/Sky merge

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I am sure that would be part of the negociating..... My guess. Something in the middle
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Re: Chorus/Ggn/Sky merge

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yycinformer wrote: Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:36 pm
fish4life wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:03 pm New government legislation coming in that is going to make companies that contract flip eg CPA to CPA pay the same wage and keep people retaining their longevity for pay and vacation. C-86 I believe.

See contract retendering

http://www.mondaq.com/canada/x/753052/e ... egislation
So would that mean the boys and girls at Jazz/GGN would be getting a raise? Sky FO's starting out get $49.35 and Jazz is $38 something
They make more per hour but jazz contract is worth more money per year overall. Something people really need to start understanding on this forum is hourly pay is only ONE PART of your overall compensation.
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