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Ground school soon, what should I know?

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Hello!
I am on a soon to be GS and I have a lot of Questions:
How to choose my Flight Bag, what are the dimensions availiable to place it in the various Dash, and in the RJ?
Will the books given to us fit in a Flight Bag? or should I also bring a Backpack? (And a grocery cart? :lol: )
Is the training mostly in uniform? How many civilian clothes should I plan to have?
How hard is it to find a crash pad at the bases? and How do you reach the airport if you don't bring a vehicule there, is public transit usually easy to use?
I probably have more that I am not thinking about at the moment, will update later in that case.
Thank you in advance
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What do you need to know?

You are about to become the property of Chorus Aviation Ltd. Say goodbye to your life (socially and savings).

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You may now return to people who will actually answer your questions.
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We have transitioned to an EFB (electronic flight bag) via an iPad mini. All the manuals and publications are now loaded to it. As far as flight bags go, there are may options, ranging from some of the satchels/etc you can get at walmart/staples up to nice professional leather pilot cases. All depending on how much you're willing to spend. Generally speaking, on the line, you'll need room in your bag for the iPad, headset, licences, high vis vest *for walk arounds) and a stash of extra pens and batteries etc. They don't need to be huge. There is plenty of room for most bags of that sort in the Dashes and the CRJ. I've got a 'fancy' leather one from Calgary Pilot supply that was built to fit the slightly smaller space in the CRJ, I got it figuring I knew myself well enough to know I'd just fill a bigger bag if I had the space anyways..

For training, you'll be handed an assortment of booklets, papers etc. Nothing outside the ordinary. Most folks just bring backpacks etc. A small flight bag should be sufficient if you decide to buy one before hand.

Training is not done in uniform. I believe on day one or day two you do visit the Uniform supplier and get fitted. It'll take weeks (if not months) for all of it to arrive. Dress for all classroom/ipt/sim training is to be done per the company policy in business casual attire. Active wear and open toed footwear are not acceptable.

Crash pads out west (I'm from the west) are available. Lots of postings in the crew rooms for them. There should also be lots that pop up on craigslist etc. I'm not sure about YUL or YYZ but they are most likely the same. Ask around in your ground school for those that live in the base you may be assigned. You're put up in a hotel for all of the Groundschool/ipt and sim training so you have plenty of time to figure that out. Also, with as much movement as is currently happening, you may find that you're back to the base you wanted before training is even complete.

My suggestions? Show up with no preconceived notions, ready to learn. I'd also make sure you have sufficient clothing etc to make a few weeks in a hotel not seem rough. There should be laundry provisions, but I can't keep track of which hotel we're staying at this week in YYZ.

Good luck and welcome!
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Rowdy wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:45 am
We have transitioned to an EFB (electronic flight bag) via an iPad mini. All the manuals and publications are now loaded to it. As far as flight bags go, there are may options, ranging from some of the satchels/etc you can get at walmart/staples up to nice professional leather pilot cases. All depending on how much you're willing to spend. Generally speaking, on the line, you'll need room in your bag for the iPad, headset, licences, high vis vest *for walk arounds) and a stash of extra pens and batteries etc. They don't need to be huge. There is plenty of room for most bags of that sort in the Dashes and the CRJ. I've got a 'fancy' leather one from Calgary Pilot supply that was built to fit the slightly smaller space in the CRJ, I got it figuring I knew myself well enough to know I'd just fill a bigger bag if I had the space anyways..

For training, you'll be handed an assortment of booklets, papers etc. Nothing outside the ordinary. Most folks just bring backpacks etc. A small flight bag should be sufficient if you decide to buy one before hand.

Training is not done in uniform. I believe on day one or day two you do visit the Uniform supplier and get fitted. It'll take weeks (if not months) for all of it to arrive. Dress for all classroom/ipt/sim training is to be done per the company policy in business casual attire. Active wear and open toed footwear are not acceptable.

Crash pads out west (I'm from the west) are available. Lots of postings in the crew rooms for them. There should also be lots that pop up on craigslist etc. I'm not sure about YUL or YYZ but they are most likely the same. Ask around in your ground school for those that live in the base you may be assigned. You're put up in a hotel for all of the Groundschool/ipt and sim training so you have plenty of time to figure that out. Also, with as much movement as is currently happening, you may find that you're back to the base you wanted before training is even complete.

My suggestions? Show up with no preconceived notions, ready to learn. I'd also make sure you have sufficient clothing etc to make a few weeks in a hotel not seem rough. There should be laundry provisions, but I can't keep track of which hotel we're staying at this week in YYZ.

Good luck and welcome!
Rowdy, they no longer do uniform on day 2. Crappy I know, but we are hoping to bring that back!
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When you get to the Sim stage of your training do not be afraid to say you do not understand something, or you do not feel ready. The company does not want you to fail and will give you the extra [within reason] training so as to be successful on your ride.
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How long does it take to complete training at Jazz from Day 1 of GS to the sim ride ?

And where does it all take place YYZ or YVR or ??
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dhc# wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:11 am
How long does it take to complete training at Jazz from Day 1 of GS to the sim ride ?

And where does it all take place YYZ or YVR or ??
Depends on training availability. I've heard of guys having 2-3 weeks off between IPT/Initial Company Training and then SIM training. I'd say if you have no hold ups or extra sessions you'll be ready for line in doc training in about 4-5 weeks.

All initial company training and IPT will be done in YYZ. (Sometimes IPT may be done in YVR for the DH8.....not sure if they have an IPT in YVR for the Q400)
SIM training is likely to be YYZ, possibly YVR. YYZ has CRJ, Q400, DH8. YVR has DH8 and Q400.
If you'd prefer to do training in YVR I would send an email to your training coordinator the day you get your type and request YVR if they have slots available. Also if you have a partner (same type) that you'd like to be paired with also email your training coordinator as they likely can accommodate that, otherwise its usually random.'

The best advice I can give is: during the first 2 weeks, if you want something or need something (travel home on days off, requesting a specific partner for training, requesting YVR for training, asking for travel/moving days after initial before line in doc, requesting YYC, YVR, YUL for line in doc or whatever......email your training coordinator ASAP. They often can help you out and sometimes it helps them out.)

After the first 2 weeks coordinators are busy with the next class behind you so they tend to be slower responding to your requests. So email and ask them all the questions you need ASAP. Just try not to "bug them" with 8 million emails (try to condense them) and be polite as they will control how well your life goes in training lol ;)

If you don't ask, you won't get! The worst they can say is "no".
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Thank you very much for all the quick answers! It is super appreciated!

How can I have access to compagny policies before hand, business casual is a very broad term, and except the no-jeans one specified in the acceptance email, are there any colour or otherwise restriction to it?

Do we get the Ipad early in the training or would it be best to bring mine for the first week or so?

What does ipt training mean?

Thank you again!
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de St-Exup Fan wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:21 pm
Thank you very much for all the quick answers! It is super appreciated!

How can I have access to compagny policies before hand, business casual is a very broad term, and except the no-jeans one specified in the acceptance email, are there any colour or otherwise restriction to it?

Do we get the Ipad early in the training or would it be best to bring mine for the first week or so?

What does ipt training mean?

Thank you again!

IPT is Integrated Procedures Trainer. Basically its a mock of a cockpit with touch screens so you can touch screen move the switches etc and run flows and drills etc. Costs a lot cheaper than a level D sim and still get some good learning out of it.
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de St-Exup Fan wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:21 pm
Thank you very much for all the quick answers! It is super appreciated!

How can I have access to compagny policies before hand, business casual is a very broad term, and except the no-jeans one specified in the acceptance email, are there any colour or otherwise restriction to it?

Do we get the Ipad early in the training or would it be best to bring mine for the first week or so?

What does ipt training mean?

Thank you again!
Google business casual and wear that. Dress pants or khakis with a polo shirt is perfect. Where whatever colour you want, probably be a good idea if it doesn't have any logos from previous companies on it.

You get your iPad on the first day
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Day 2 is Seniority, Base & Equip. draw, followed later in the afternoon by the ALPA indoc. and dinner...at least it was when I was there. Things might have changed.
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