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Re: Any hiring news?

#76 Post by JLA » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:29 am

Heard it was postponed by ALPA? Anybody?
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Re: Any hiring news?

#77 Post by Bajan Pilot » Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:47 am

Delayed by mutual agreement between ALPA and the company.
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Re: Any hiring news?

#78 Post by JLA » Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:24 am

Still no sign of an Equipment bid, anyone?
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Re: Any hiring news?

#79 Post by prop2jet » Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:44 am

Nothing likely until the end of the month.
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#80 Post by razorblade » Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:46 am

So.. thoughts on the no-equipment-bid-needed email?
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Re: Any hiring news?

#81 Post by tdp19 » Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:53 am

What email would that be Razorblade?

NVM went to my Junk folder.
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Re: Any hiring news?

#82 Post by JLA » Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:53 am

What does it say?
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Re: Any hiring news?

#83 Post by mars4 » Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:40 pm


What email would that be Razorblade?
MEC Special Bulletin LOU 21 & Pilot Bid Mitigation - August 30 2013
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Re: Any hiring news?

#84 Post by volez » Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:36 pm

Hey guys,


The good news : Nobody is getting thrown off the bus ! We will most likely see new hiring by February 2014 !
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#85 Post by Obbie » Sat Aug 31, 2013 4:09 am

The bus is crashing however, and being thrown off it might in the long run be a blessing. :rolleyes:
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#86 Post by Stinky » Sat Aug 31, 2013 4:21 am

volez wrote:Hey guys,


The good news : Nobody is getting thrown off the bus ! We will most likely see new hiring by February 2014 !
Agreed, new hiring due to all the F/O's bailing. Just don't come here with a career in mind, get your type rating and a bit of time in your logbook and get out. Only come as a last resort though.
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Re: Any hiring news?

#87 Post by prop2jet » Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:50 am

Most of the turnover at Jazz is seen in the bottom 500. There is some at the higher seniority as well. There are quite a few senior FO's at Jazz so it would be inaccurate to suggest all are going to bail. For many, there really is no where else to go unless one is willing to see a sizeable drop in income, benefits and lifestyle.

Short of a miracle there will be no growth at Jazz and I would not be surprised to see the introduction of a full B scale in the next contract.
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#88 Post by DHC-1 Jockey » Sat Aug 31, 2013 10:32 am

prop2jet wrote:There are quite a few senior FO's at Jazz so it would be inaccurate to suggest all are going to bail. For many, there really is no where else to go unless one is willing to see a sizeable drop in income, benefits and lifestyle.
Exactly. Where would one suggest we go? What if someone has already did the token AC interview and got the PFO? All that's left is WJ, and that's a tough nut to crack. What's left.. SkyRegional? Encore? Starting at year 1 F/O wages at Porter? Uprooting the family and moving to China or the Middle East?

For those Jazz pilots who already have 3 or more years invested at this company, it becomes a calculated risk of deciding what to do. Stay at Jazz and hope it survives past 2020 while keeping the benefits associated with their seniority, or bail out to a lower paying job with worse working conditions, but a reasonably assured monthly paycheque?

This seems to be fast coming a textbook case of "between a rock and a hard place," and there are no easy answers.
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#90 Post by scooby » Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:07 pm

any chance of hiring in the fall?
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Re: Any hiring news?

#91 Post by JLA » Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:19 pm

Although this is a good idea Obbie, Qatar is now hiring type rated pilots according to their career section...How does a Q400 or a RJ qualify for that?
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#92 Post by prop2jet » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:51 pm

As long as there is a supply of type rated Boeing / Airbus pilots that the ME carriers can draw on, there really are limited options. It is easier said than done to suggest the solution is to go abroad. That is a cop out solution when you consider the fact that even in those regions, compensation has been on the decline. Look at Cathay, D scale. Are we to uproot our families?

Perhaps some Westjetters might like to dispel rumours of changes to New hire compensation.
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#93 Post by Obbie » Sun Sep 01, 2013 4:22 pm

My take home last month was $10,400 US as a 3rd year FO
with a 3 bedroom condo company provided.

Just where do you get the idea over seas flying doesn't pay ?
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#94 Post by prop2jet » Sun Sep 01, 2013 5:18 pm

Well Obbie, by comparison to what is being paid in Canada, sure, I agree you are making more. However, why don't you ask someone who might have been there 15+ years long before you showed up and see what they were paid. Furthermore, for many it is not an option given family circumstances. Is everyone living happily ever after over there? Not always. I have my share of friends over there, who now have the big alimony cheque to pay too...
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#95 Post by Obbie » Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:53 am

It has been my impression that the alimony cheque was always on the
horizon for these guys, they just chose not to see it, and the move
simply hurried up the inevitable.

My wife came here as I did, open minded and without negative pre-thought.

See has found a job she enjoys, made many new friends from all corners
of the globe, and engages both the community and the culture. It has been
one of the most social chapters of her life without question.

But she is a woman of enviable character, and I know many are not.
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Re: Any hiring news?

#96 Post by scooby » Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:18 am

any chance of a groundschool this fall?
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#97 Post by FL320 » Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:51 am

Scooby,
I would say no. There is a new agreement, Captains will fly in the F/O seat when needed.
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Re: Any hiring news?

#98 Post by Bede » Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:13 pm

prop2jet wrote:As long as there is a supply of type rated Boeing / Airbus pilots that the ME carriers can draw on, there really are limited options. It is easier said than done to suggest the solution is to go abroad. That is a cop out solution when you consider the fact that even in those regions, compensation has been on the decline. Look at Cathay, D scale. Are we to uproot our families?

Perhaps some Westjetters might like to dispel rumours of changes to New hire compensation.
Fill me, what rumor is that? I haven't heard anything like that except the encore wages.
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#99 Post by swervin » Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:52 pm

Hey Bede, the rumour is all new hire Westjet pilots are being paid 85% of what current Westjet pilots are being paid.
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#100 Post by Lateralus » Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:31 am

swervin wrote:Hey Bede, the rumour is all new hire Westjet pilots are being paid 85% of what current Westjet pilots are being paid.
That is a bogus rumour. Where do you guys get this stuff?
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