New Hire Class January 2014?

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New Hire Class January 2014?

#1 Post by DHC-1 Jockey » Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:52 pm

Scuttlebutt around the crew room is there are 60 new hires coming online with a class starting next month. Is this for real? I'd be expecting layoffs or LOA's/RTB's/LBW's since we're losing some RJ routes. If this is true i didn't know so many F/O's were leaving.

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Re: New Hire Class January 2014?

#2 Post by tdp19 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:42 am

DHC-1 Jockey wrote:Scuttlebutt around the crew room is there are 60 new hires coming online with a class starting next month. Is this for real? I'd be expecting layoffs or LOA's/RTB's/LBW's since we're losing some RJ routes. If this is true i didn't know so many F/O's were leaving.

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I was flying with a guy before the news about ggn came out and he predicted around 50 new hires next year, havent heard the rumour since the news. Look at the seniority list, last time i looked i think it was around 1460, was 1510 9 months ago.
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Re: New Hire Class January 2014?

#3 Post by prop2jet » Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:55 pm

I doubt that many would be hired given all the speculation concerning the next equipment bid. Wait until the end of January(when the next bid is out) for the real picture. The only rumour I have heard is another Q400 from YYZ going to YYC.
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Re: New Hire Class January 2014?

#4 Post by teacher » Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:13 pm

I too have heard of hiring. Word I heard was folks leaving for other companies creating vacancies.
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Re: New Hire Class January 2014?

#5 Post by Mône » Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:29 am

DHC-1 Jockey wrote:Scuttlebutt around the crew room is there are 60 new hires coming online with a class starting next month. Is this for real? I'd be expecting layoffs or LOA's/RTB's/LBW's since we're losing some RJ routes. If this is true i didn't know so many F/O's were leaving.

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I beleive we are not losing any routes to GGN, they are adding some for them, our flying remains mostly unchanged from what I understand
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Re: New Hire Class January 2014?

#6 Post by prop2jet » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:45 am

Mône wrote:
DHC-1 Jockey wrote:Scuttlebutt around the crew room is there are 60 new hires coming online with a class starting next month. Is this for real? I'd be expecting layoffs or LOA's/RTB's/LBW's since we're losing some RJ routes. If this is true i didn't know so many F/O's were leaving.

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I beleive we are not losing any routes to GGN, they are adding some for them, our flying remains mostly unchanged from what I understand
Best you go back and review the RFP announcement AC issued a few months ago. Transborder routes currently being flown by Jazz to be farmed out to another carrier with Jazz being shut out of the RFP process. This was confirmed by JR himself.
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Re: New Hire Class January 2014?

#7 Post by DHC-1 Jockey » Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:03 am

Spoke to a union rep yesterday; There will indeed be hiring most likely starting in February. I didn't ask about the number of new hires.
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Re: New Hire Class January 2014?

#8 Post by AllClutch » Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:24 pm

Any guesses on if the first classes will be filled with their Jazz Cadets?
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Re: New Hire Class January 2014?

#9 Post by indieadventurer » Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:23 pm

Any guesses as to equipment and bases?
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Re: New Hire Class January 2014?

#10 Post by teacher » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:27 am

There will probably be some Jazz cadets and some experienced candidates as in most courses. Just a guess though.

As for the bid, nobody knows and everybody is very curious as to what it will hold.
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Re: New Hire Class January 2014?

#11 Post by Cisbour » Fri Jan 03, 2014 3:16 am

Do you guys have a clue when this Jan bid will be held? End of the month?
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Re: New Hire Class January 2014?

#12 Post by tdp19 » Fri Jan 03, 2014 3:03 pm

I heard tentatively 2 g/s in feb, 1 in march
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Re: New Hire Class January 2014?

#13 Post by Localizer » Fri Jan 03, 2014 9:25 pm

My positive side says if they're hiring, maybe some upgrades to go along with it??!

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Re: New Hire Class January 2014?

#14 Post by Fish N. Chips » Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:58 pm

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Re: New Hire Class January 2014?

#15 Post by DHC-1 Jockey » Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:11 pm

The bid, which shows hiring numbers was supposed to be out today but is now delayed until next Wednesday.
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Re: New Hire Class January 2014?

#16 Post by Flap_Operator » Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:06 pm

DHC-1 Jockey wrote:The bid, which shows hiring numbers was supposed to be out today but is now delayed until next Wednesday.
Which shows hiring numbers?... Is this speculation on your part, or you know for a fact that the bid shows hiring numbers and not downgrades or nil movement?.
From what I speculate, if the bid is postponed, that means they haven't come to a decision/conclusion yet.... Right? So there is no way of knowing for sure that there will be hiring...? Unless you have inside info... Then ill just shutup haha
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Re: New Hire Class January 2014?

#17 Post by streets ahead » Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:02 pm

You're taking it too literally. The upcoming bid shows base\roster requirements. So it could be hiring\re-alignment\downgrade\layoff etc etc.
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Re: New Hire Class January 2014?

#18 Post by DHC-1 Jockey » Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:17 pm

My "inside source" is a union rep who says that there will be hiring in the coming months. While there may be reductions, there are bases with almost zero F/O reserve coverage, so it looks like too many Capt's and not enough F/O's as the bottom third keeps recycling as people leave for Sunwing/Encore/Rouge et al.
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Re: New Hire Class January 2014?

#19 Post by Cisbour » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:31 am

Well I don't know what your "Inside source" thinks about these reductions in YHZ, YVR and YYZ eh now....These rumours seem to have faded quite a bit I must say. Wait and see?
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Re: New Hire Class January 2014?

#20 Post by Flap_Operator » Tue Jan 21, 2014 12:41 pm

DHC-1 Jockey wrote:My "inside source" is a union rep who says that there will be hiring in the coming months. While there may be reductions, there are bases with almost zero F/O reserve coverage, so it looks like too many Capt's and not enough F/O's as the bottom third keeps recycling as people leave for Sunwing/Encore/Rouge et al.

Hmmmm ... It was wishful thinking, i would have loved for you to be right, but I think it is time for you to change your inside sources buddy.
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Re: New Hire Class January 2014?

#21 Post by tdp19 » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:15 pm

Flap_Operator wrote:
DHC-1 Jockey wrote:My "inside source" is a union rep who says that there will be hiring in the coming months. While there may be reductions, there are bases with almost zero F/O reserve coverage, so it looks like too many Capt's and not enough F/O's as the bottom third keeps recycling as people leave for Sunwing/Encore/Rouge et al.

Hmmmm ... It was wishful thinking, i would have loved for you to be right, but I think it is time for you to change your inside sources buddy.
I can guarantee their will be a groundschool in March/April.
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Re: New Hire Class January 2014?

#22 Post by Inverted2 » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:33 pm

tdp19 wrote:
Flap_Operator wrote:
DHC-1 Jockey wrote:My "inside source" is a union rep who says that there will be hiring in the coming months. While there may be reductions, there are bases with almost zero F/O reserve coverage, so it looks like too many Capt's and not enough F/O's as the bottom third keeps recycling as people leave for Sunwing/Encore/Rouge et al.

Hmmmm ... It was wishful thinking, i would have loved for you to be right, but I think it is time for you to change your inside sources buddy.
I can guarantee their will be a groundschool in March/April.
There will be hiring. Many junior F/Os will be quitting. YHZ base closing. YYZ and YVR major reductions. There will be no chance of upgrades for years except for YYC base likely.
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Re: New Hire Class January 2014?

#23 Post by Cisbour » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:45 pm

What if a few dozens of captains do get downgraded back to FO? Would they still need to hire?
I assume the bid won't be out tomorrow eh?
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Re: New Hire Class January 2014?

#24 Post by prop2jet » Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:00 pm

In light of the fact that Management has spelled out the worse case scenario if no Mitigation is taken I think it is clear the bid will be out.
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Re: New Hire Class January 2014?

#25 Post by razorblade » Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:10 pm

Don't they have to go through the VSP cutoff (31st) to see what's really needed? So I would think there wouldn't be a bid until Feb..
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