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Beefitarian
 Post subject: airdrome aeroplanes
PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 7:52 pm 
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http://www.airdromeaeroplanes.com/index.html

Anyone farmiliar? Their products look really great and simple, everyone on the internet claims they fly well also. They make ultralights, .75 scale and full sized WWI replicas.
I found them last night on the internet and stayed up until 3am looking at everything I could find. I'll probably never do it but I want to buy and build a bunch of them now.


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 Post subject: Re: airdrome aeroplanes
PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 3:43 pm 
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Hey Beef

These guys are at Oshkosh every year. The product is not too bad and better than what has been offered in the past by others.
On a scale of one to ten when rated against other kits , I would give them a 6.5 -7 .
There is a group in New Zealand that build really accurate WW1 aircraft complete with new manufacture rotary , yes rotary , engines. They are closer with about a 7-8 out of ten.
The best WW1 replicas at present are by Neil Davidson in Alberta. His examples are built almost exactly to original specs/plans and also have original engines . His are 8 -9.5. Don't think it is possible to get a perfect ten out of temn replica
I don't want to diminish the Aerodrome example because they are actually quite good and are full scale. With some really good attention to detail and proper build methods, they are the basis for a really good replica.

Overall, for budget, speed of build etc, the airdrome aeroplanes are pretty good.
For the average pocketbook etc the best choice


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 Post subject: Re: airdrome aeroplanes
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One of the things that stand out to me is the claim that they are such nice flying aircraft and full sized. I would take that right away over accuracy. I may do a great disservice to the inside accuracy if I actually built one as I would want a radio and xponder for sure. The base kit seems pretty resonably priced. The one I read about being built has a rotary engine from Australia I believe.

Thanks for the tips, does Neil do kits or just builds?

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Ok I just googlestalked Mr. Davidson and loosly found "Davidson Aeroworks" he seems to be in BC. I think he might hate me if I built a plane because he's into accuracy. I'd rather have a plane that looks good but flies even better. I totally respect restorations though.


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 Post subject: Re: airdrome aeroplanes
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Ya my mistake I knew Neil was in BC don't know why I said Alberta.
I believe he will build you and accurate WW1 aircraft or build you a kit.
I heard that he had last year done a real,accurate Avro 504k and had a second part finished one for sale.
He also does other antique a/c bits . I have friend that get T/Moth spars and Gpsy Moth struts made from him.
I have seen them and the work is first rate!

His prices for an full a/c are expensive, so I agree that the Aerodrome copies would be more realistc.
As for accuracy well all antique aircraft have ELT's for example so they are not perfect. In my vintage aircraft , I carry a hand held on my leg for airshows but never use a radio while pleasure flying ( just leave it behind) One can preserve accuracy of the aircraft by just not mounting anything more modern than is mandatory.


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I'm too chicken to go NORDO. I wish airdrome made some two seaters even though they wouldn't be accurate. Then I could build a sopwith dove or something and take my dad or one of the kids flying with me.

I have been authorised to buy a rudder/vertical stabalizer kit by my minister of finance aka (the wife). :D


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 Post subject: Re: airdrome aeroplanes
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Beefitarian - Have you progressed with your kit purchase? Any info to share re: a/c you plan to build, comments on kit quality received etc.?


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No, sorry. I have been browsing on the internet to see what others have done. I'm a pretty big blabber fingers so if I get something from Airdrome I'll post about it. The kits seem to be mostly aluminum tubes rivited together. They seem really nice and basic so the quality ends up depending on me the actual builder.

You might like to check out this guy's build of their sopwith pup. It's really nice. http://www.ourgreatphysician.com/cfp/cf ... es/Pup.htm

And here's some threads on another forum about the pup http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/repli ... oject.html

and the first Camel build. http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/repli ... camel.html

There's some pretty good video stuff with a bunch of their kits flying they seem pretty affordable. I kind of need a partner to motivate me to get on it. An excentric guy like me that would like to build a Camel only with a nice hanger at YYC. :P


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There is a fellow in Lamont Alberta, Graham Lee, who has been selling plans and even kits I think of a Nieuport 11 replica. I have seen one flying and it looked pretty good. He has been selling plans since the 1980's at least.


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 Post subject: Re: airdrome aeroplanes
PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:20 am 
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Took me a while to dig it up but here's a fun looking Sopwith Baby replica built using the same techniques as used in the Airdrome aircraft:
http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/p ... 16&start=0

It looks great AND has two seats! Another two-seater is the Nieuport 12 replica that I though Airdrome had a kit for but maybe it's from one of the other Nieuport builders.

LnS.


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Thanks LnS.

I've been stalking that guy a bit. He had them build the prototype Camel that has become an Airdrome kit and now he's working with Robert Baslee on that Baby. It will likely become a kit also once they have it all worked out the way they want it. They say it will be the first two seater.

I don't know what the capacity is like on the Baby in regards to weight but it seems to be a pretty snug side by side. I had to finish the mashed potatoes again tonight so I might never be able to squeeze in with a passenger into one of those. :oops: They arn't kidding when they say he takes a while to answer e-mails, it's ok though I'm obviously not in hurry.


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 Post subject: Re: airdrome aeroplanes
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I think 'cozy' would probably be a good way to describe the cockpit of the Sopwith Baby. It looks like it's only 1 1/2 people wide at most which would restrict you to mostly quite lithe passengers. Just saying.

I did a little searching and it turns out the Nieuport 12 I was thinking of is from a set of plans by Graham Lee of Circa Reproductions:
http://www.nieuports.com/index.asp?page=nieuport12
Looks like a fun airplane, especially if you kept it light as could be.

LnS.


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 Post subject: Re: airdrome aeroplanes
PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:49 am 
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Hi Beef,

I've been checking out airdrome aeroplanes for a while too. The shortcoming for me is that they are light sport aircraft and rated for absolutely no aerobatics...

A few posts back you said you wish they had a 2seater... About a month ago they flew their new Sopwith Tabloid and are building a Sopwith Baby. Both are (tight) side by side two seaters.

They just started a Facebook page on which I believe they have photos of the Tabloid posted.

They also have a chat site that has loads of pictures and the builders talk to each other for tips. It's a real nice little community.

I'm on my iPad so I can't look them up right now, but I'm sure you could google and find both.


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 Post subject: Re: airdrome aeroplanes
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:39 pm 
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Thanks. One of the links I posted was a forum where several people post that have built and flown Airdrome kits.

I am a little concerned that if built one I would have difficulty flying it because of having to schedule times when the wind is light.

I'm at Oshkosh so I might find them and ask some questions. They never responded to e-mail.


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I met Robert and had several conversations with him, super nice guy. I will update this thread with anything pertinent and then some. I plan to start with building a rudder and see how it goes from there.

We discussed why he doesn't build two seaters. He wants to stick with WW I planes. The typical pilot then was 130lbs. I outweigh two of those guys already. To keep the C of G moment from going to far out you need to move the pilot seat to far forward and it interfers with the passenger compartment.

If you want a two place plane you will need to fly something else.


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Ok, so currently I'm wasting all my wife's money on pizza, mountain dew, scotch, trips to Oshkosh and occasionally renting C-172s when the weather doesn't suck.

I just got a PM from terminaldude who has a partially completed Nieuport 17 that he would like to sell.

It sounds pretty good,
18 nov 2012 terminaldude wrote:
I have a partially finished full scale Nieuport 17 project for sale. It is an Airdrome Aeroplanes full scale Nieuport 17 WW1 scout. The fuselage is on the gear and the rear flying surfaces are built but not covered. The control stick and torque tube are attached and I have cessna rudder peddles for it. It comes with Tracy Obrien brakes, Stearman throttle quadrant and a number of instruments. I am asking $4000 for it. It is priced at about $2000 less than the raw tubing kits purchased so far, not including the 100 hours of build time put into it as well. I also have a Subaru EA81 with Kuhner 2.44:1 geared reduction drive for sale as well. I am asking $2500 for the engine and redrive. It is located in Winnipeg Mb.
hopefully he will come by here and post a picture or two.


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 Post subject: Re: airdrome aeroplanes
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Does anyone know if the Nieuport 17 partial kit is still for sale and does anyone have contact info for the seller?


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 Post subject: Re: airdrome aeroplanes
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Click on his ad here viewtopic.php?f=8&t=85417&p=787726#p787726

There's some pictures and an e-mail address.


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