Rockie wrote:tehmastermonk wrote:its called ex-patriate your citizenship for yout informaion, and yes, i have. your claim that no freemen have done this is an assumption for one, and for two, expatriation is not necessary to be a freeman.
I didn't claim that no freemen have renounced their citizenship, I said Freeman Menard hasn't. I know he hasn't, but no matter how many times I ask him he doesn't seem to understand the question. And that's pretty funny since he claims to be a smart guy, but can't seem to grasp a question any simpleton over ten years of age could.
Since you say you have, what is your citizenship now?
i i am not a citizen at all. under the laws of nations and by right of self determination I am who I say i am and I go by an name but I myself am not a noun, or any of those things.
i am in commonlaw jurisdiction. i have a post on the thinkfree site that explains this in clear detail.
here is part of that post.. and is relevent to all of you here.
Jurisdiction x---
this is common law. where the flesh and blood lives. this is the original jurisdiction. there are no corperations, this is where living contracts between living people exist. this is where the law of the land exists. the law of contract. here you have no title. no name. you are
I AM THAT I AM. or another way to put it is. adam. this is where real people live
this is where living contracts between living people are. or contract law if you will.
jurisdiction a---
this is where the admiralty law exists
private/ international this is where the birth certificate is created. this is what prepares a place for you in commerce when you are of age.
this is where private contracts are created. there are 3 parties to this contract.
you, the straw"child" as i call it and the govt., and the real man, the living soul.
in this side of the contract, there is 3 basic subsections.. 1 is the grantor 2 is the trustee and 3 is the beneficiary.
John Smith. thats how the straw"child" is spelled. i call it strawchild because that is how you are presumed. from berth to the age of reason and responsibility, your status is child.
this is a corperation evedenced by the birth certificate. the birth certificate is evidence of a bond that is held in the D.T.C.(depository Trust Company) this company holds record to all trusts in north america.
1 grantor (of the private trust or forign siders trust)-- grantor is that who energizes and directs the trustee
this is the guy that creates the B/C.
2 trustee manages under the direction of the grantor
attorurney general - expatirates thier citicenship in order to serve in thier office.(ill explain that later)
treasury
MP. and you
3 benefisciary - benefits
D.T.C. these are the holders of the bc. and assets and other paper securities.
this company operates on both public and private and is under a special contract
the DTC is the depository trust company on water street in NYC. and they hold canadian and american trusts. remember we are registered in washington.
in this jurisdiction, you use always regestered mail. not certified mail. regestered mail can operate in both public and private. this is the vessel that can move the substance created in a
into the form established in jurisdiction b.
this is where your assets are. and where asset accounting is done from.
jurisdiction b---
this is public sector.disney land. statuory law presides here.
JOHN SMITH cusstiquayed trust. as it is above, so it is below, this mirrors or reflects jurisdiction a in its set up, but it is on the other side of the ledger. in here, substance is not needed. its all about proper form and process.
think of it as the container that contains the substance created in a.
** you cant just move substancee from a to b woith out a bond.*** the public and private are two different things
1 grantor
the bank-through dominion of canada or federal reserve depending on what country your in.
the bank gets it comerccial energy from jurisdiction a.
2 trustee your govt. all four levels of govt administrate this account on your behalf, in conjunction with you unless you are a freeman.
3 bneficiary the public.the people. your fiction and those fictions in fictitous contract with you.this is where welfare and stuff comes from.
this is the accruel accounting side. this is where you operate under limited liability if you use your govt. made strawman.
this is where you have your sin number. or social security.
if you rescind or kill the strawman, you then have to re create your own strawman outside govt. in order to operate in here. and he has to be bonded.
both jurisdicitons a and b are strawmen. a is private, signed in red ink b is publicc signed in blue. jurisdiction x is where I AM lives. your name is created in jurisdiction a, by contract done on your behalf at birth in juris x by your parents.
and expatiration of citizenship is not necessarily permenent. it can be rescinded and any title reclaimed if you do it proper. when i said i have i realized after reading that i left you with the impression that i was still under that status. it was a temporary arangement that alwoed me yo move private documents into the public sector in a legal manor.