Love Letter to WestJet Employees

[bmc]

You aren't freemen, you are freeloaders. You piggyback on other peoples efforts without contributing, and you make work for honest people by fighting the system trying to get your free ride. If every person, agency, business and organization spent their time like you do nitpicking the letter of the law instead of the intent, this society would grind to a halt.

You are all hypocritical frauds.

I think this sums up my assessment quite well.

[Changes in Latitudes]

tiggermmouth, you misunderstand taxes, where they go, ane what they are for. you are operating on assumptions that income tax pays for these things you listed. thats not correct.

freemen dont oppose all taxes.those roads you talk about, they are not yours. they belong to the queen. and when i buy gas, the taxes are already incorperated into the price.

i pay the taxes that provide a benefit or service to society. what service to you does income tax render? read one of my lingwinded posts where i explain taxes, and jurisdictions and stuff and how all this applies. your benefits come from the public sector, wich is fiction. disneyland.
fiat currency

Happy Canada Day, ya tin-foil hat wearin' looney toon.

[bmc]

Happy Canada Day, ya tin-foil hat wearin' looney toon.

[mdscientist61]

See yez later, ya bunch of smooth-talking fast-talkers.

I'll be thinking of all you moochers out there when I'm filling out my taxes next March to pay for your friggin' Health Care!

Happy Canada Day to yez all!

[Rotten Apple #1]

Rob got chased off of ThinkFree.ca by a poster named Powder who had a series of debates with Rob. Seems Rob couldn't/wouldn't back up his notions of Claim of Right (CoR) or Notice of Understanding and Intent (NoUI), some fanciful notions or twists of notions of his. He hasn't been heard from since. Perhaps the same has happened here now. And hopefully he takes that bad spelling monkey with him!

Though I love the "Star Wars Intro" style message to Sean Durfy and the rest of WestJet's employees at minute 5:24 of this YouTube video, Rob's Very Cunning Plan ANDDENSUM 7. It's the last of 7 videos (each about 8-9 minutes) addressing Rob's experiences over the last two weeks since he was denied boarding.

And don't miss the final 10 secs of the video, the only thing you HAVE to see. Hilarious!!

"It's cute you think you can stop me"

Addendum: For reference only: Here is a recent decision on an application for a Judicial Review initiated by a Non Governmental Organization (NGO) asking for a review of the Minister of Environment's interpretation of its duties under the relevant Statute concerning the reporting of pollutant discharge. This is the kind of review I believe Rob would intend, were he to continue on this path with respect to WestJet. In this case, the applicants were successful, and the Minister ORDERED (mandamus) to report certain omitted discharges.

If he was considering a civil suit against WestJet for breach of contract, he'd have a tough time considering paragraph 5 on the Travel Info section of WJ's website says

5. Domestic Travel - Identification and Travel documents

All guests aged 18 and over are required to present at the gate, during boarding, one piece of valid government issued photo ID showing their name, date of birth and gender. If a valid government issued photo ID is not available, then two pieces of valid government issued non-photo ID will be required one of which must show their name, date of birth and gender.

HE was the one who did not honour the terms of the contract.

[Misha]

I find your tag line ironic Widow:

"They must find it difficult . . . Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority." - Gerald Massey



Misha

[Dash-Ate]

My father put his life on the line in WWll. I stood for my country to four years.
Neither he, nor I, nor ANY OF THE VETERANS I have spoken with at their Legion agrees with you. They are all sickened by the way you so called adults are allowing the rights they fought for to be taken from you. You are abandoning them. They would never accept that they needed government permission to travel in their own country, and now this is what you folks are doing. And you are attacking those who are standing for the rights they fought for.

Shame on you all.

Rob

FYI, Rockie has put more than 4 years of his life standing for his country (ie: in the military)

He was paid, right? I mean it was not like he was put into jail for 4 years.

Ah well I guess that makes him supremely qualified to talk about law and government.

[AuxBatOn]

FYI, Rockie has put more than 4 years of his life standing for his country (ie: in the military)

He was paid, right? I mean it was not like he was put into jail for 4 years.

Ah well I guess that makes him supremely qualified to talk about law and government.

I don't quite understand why you get upset with that, but I'll explain what was my intent.

Mr Wacko here said that most if not all veterans he knew would agree with him. Obviously Rockie doesn't agree with him and yet, he is a "veteran", meaning that he did serve his country. I was trying to tell Mr Wacko that because you are a vet, doesn't mean you'll be a freeloader...

[BoostedNihilist]

I find it simply hilarious that somewhere back in the debate someone referenced david icke... for those of you who don't know a simple google turns this up...

British author exposes the reptilian bloodline that rules the world. Learn the truth about many people, including the British Royals, Brian Mulroney, ...

It all makes sense now.

Also.. I find myself agreeing word for word with Rockie... someone better check the core temperature of hell..

[Rockie]

Also.. I find myself agreeing word for word with Rockie... someone better check the core temperature of hell..

No worries. I'm sure it's only a temporary setback.

[tehmastermonk]

Happy Canada day sheeple! your all as confused as a crackhead in a hailstorm but you are still my fellow man!

[scootr]

Hey Rob and the rest of the Freemen who've made it to AvCanada..... remember that on an aviation forum, you're dealing with people who manipulate, on a by the minute/hourly/daily basis mind you, with a law that can't be taken lightly, but we deal with it all the time, we deal with it in our dreams, most waking moments( when we're not thinking about sex as it's been scientifically proven), etc.....

In your enlightenment, can you, without resorting to word play, use one word to describe this law?
And are you going to tell me how to circumvent it?

To aviation lifers, after this one law, all others, from whatever source, are an inconvenience, and we want nothing more than to determine how to "fly" in the face of the law I'm talking about.

So, any one crying about the injustice of all the other "imposed laws", whether accepted or not, we really have no sympathy....

And by the way, all you freemen forum posters, more that a few of us have determined that you really have no intention of suppling anyone with simple, straight answers, all you seek is bringing awareness of your perceived plight to the masses....

And I've told more than one special interest minority group(religious and otherwise) that knock on my door, no thanks, I'd rather be flying.

Fly safe all(and with whatever ID you may need)
Peter

[short bus]

the guy who can't spell "the" properly is telling the rest of us we're confused.......

[tehmastermonk]

wow. we have answered all of your questions directly and in great detail.

you did not understand them, and some even confessede they refsed to read them.

children trying to trap us with "clever" questions and we answer your questions but it is you that answer none of ours.

[Rockie]

wow. we have answered all of your questions directly and in great detail.

What gives you that idea? You and freeman menard still haven't answered the simplest and most often asked question of this thread.

Have you renounced your Canadian citizenship?

ps. No "detail" please. A simple yes or no.

[tehmastermonk]

scroll back. i did answer that with a yes or no.

[Rockie]

Pardon me, I think you're right. If memory serves you said no. So while you at least are honest about it, you are still something of a hypocrite.

Rob on the other hand is still embarrassing himself pretending to not understand a question any six year old would grasp in a second.

[denkauto]

tiggermmouth, you misunderstand taxes, where they go, ane what they are for. you are operating on assumptions that income tax pays for these things you listed. thats not correct.

freemen dont oppose all taxes.those roads you talk about, they are not yours. they belong to the queen. and when i buy gas, the taxes are already incorperated into the price.

i pay the taxes that provide a benefit or service to society. what service to you does income tax render? read one of my lingwinded posts where i explain taxes, and jurisdictions and stuff and how all this applies. your benefits come from the public sector, wich is fiction. disneyland.
fiat currency

Do you know why you guys are a burden on society? It's because you live in a house built to a standard set by a government you do not support by paying tax. You have running water and electricity built by government infrastructure spending that you do not contribute to. You use a health system you do not pay for, and are prescribed drugs that are proven safe by a government agency you do not pay for. In fact, the food you eat is also safe because of a government agency you do not pay for.

The safety standards where you work are created and enforced by a government agency you do not pay into. The labour law that protect you are a result of government agencies and people you do not contribute to.

The airplane Menard wanted to fly on is built, maintained and operated according to regulations made by a government department that gets its funding from taxes you refuse to pay. If he had the misfortune of crashing on that flight the people who would search for him and pull his ungrateful ass out of the woods are in a military he does not pay for.

Your freemen kids go to schools paid by taxes you do not contribute to, are educated by teachers paid through taxes you do not contribute to, and are taught a standard curriculum set by a government department you do not pay for. Your kids are bused to school by a driver who has to maintain a standard set through licencing that you do not support.

You live in a free and sovereign country defended by a military you do not pay for. The economy you live in is managed by a government you don't pay for, and that same government protects your interests through international agreements negotiated on your behalf, which you also don't pay for. If you are trapped in a foreign country and need help, you could go to a Canadian embassy that you don't pay for, show them your Canadian passport that you don't recognize and they will do their best to protect you, maybe even fly you home like they did to hundreds of Lebanese Canadians a few years ago. None of which you pay for.

You aren't freemen, you are freeloaders. You piggyback on other peoples efforts without contributing, and you make work for honest people by fighting the system trying to get your free ride. If every person, agency, business and organization spent their time like you do nitpicking the letter of the law instead of the intent, this society would grind to a halt.

You are all hypocritical frauds.

Checkmate freedinks,Freeman Mentard hiding in a corner with his tail between his legs.

[tehmastermonk]

I dont think Rob feels embarrased at all. i think his response was quite funny.

anyhow there are 3 people in government that expatriate thier citizenship in order to legaly
operate in both public and private sectors. i used the attourney general as one example, and yes he is of canadian origon and can have his citizenship restored at any time, however (i wish i could find that law again) any no he does not surrender up his fundemental rights.

his expatriation expands his jurisdiction to both private and public sectors, and the head of CRA is another i believe. they to expatriate so they can work for the creditors.

this does not revoke thier rights at all, for thier rights are a result of thier duties they have.
this is where thier rights come from politicaly, and thier human rights, are un alienable.

but a citizen can not operate like that because when you bring something from private to public, you cause harm. you cant bring private into public. ever. exept those three.

this is why CRA can crawl up your ass with a flshlight in private, and even enter the bedroom to investigate, and then mediate public affairs without abandoning either of his oaths.

[onyxdark]

I read your definition of Society. Where exactly, Menard, did you find you very limited academic definition for society? Let's not try to narrow our vision to a dot just because it's self serving it doesn't help "society."


Where exactly did you get that definition for society? Let's be clear if you are going to give definitions you have to let us know what authourity you are quoting. Otherwise your argument is false....

The definition I quickly looked up for society is as follows: a highly structured system of human organization for large-scale community living that normally furnishes protection, continuity, security, and a national identity for its members....
Dictionary.com.

You are attempting to be anti society. Those who are against society willfully break the laws of that society and in doing so diminish the protection, continuity, security, and national identity of its members or in other words, law breakers and should be punished.

Just because you don't accept the laws and their intent does not make them not exist.
It's kind of like saying "I'm starving but I don't believe it so it doesn't exist," the laws of nature will tell you differently and you will eventually be punished by ignoring it... Even mother nature has laws or rules that are in your best interest to follow. Likewise society has rules and laws that are in our best interest to follow so that we may all have protection, continuity, security, and national identity.
I don't need to use a slippery slope argument as to what would happen if we could travel without proper government issued id (because you have to go through checks and proofs to get it) because it has already happened or were you under a rock on 9/11?

Happy Canada Day Even though you don't deserve it Menard.

[Sulako]

Happy Birthday Canada! Best wishes to all of you who occupy the same vast stretch of land as I do

[Bob A. Booey]

As a fellow freeman, I cannot remain silent any longer. My transition to this utopian lifestyle was not one I took lightly. I was summoned to the world of Freemanism on a particularly cold April day, when a can of damaged beans that I had found outside of a Safeway began to speak to me. The can of beans, which hadn't really spoken to me in the past, except, in various pagan parables, which were always spoken backwards, bottom to top, finally became clear: Live free or die. A brief discussion with my pet ferret only clarified things all the more. It was time to trade in my possessions, these shackles provided to me by your so called law and order government, for a life free of the stupidity that claims so many of you here. Yes, the possessions imposed by your law and ORDER government, they provide me with subsidy just so I can spend it throughout their capitalist society, so it is their shackles, and my burdern to bare. So myself, Willy (my ferret) and my recently acquired can of talking beans took to the hills outside of Regina to live a life of freedom. Living off a steady diet of saltines and non-dairy creamer, I have found the life, the tranquility, and the spiritual freedom that so many of you lack. A life free from taxes, a life free from government imposed shackles, free from female companionship. While my responsibilities are to myself, my ferret, my can of beans and to my mother earth, I do consider myself a recruiter to the movement of new order. So to you out there ready, willing and able, I say, free yourselves, free your lives, save your souls.

I'm waiting for you. All you need is a tarp with some arm holes cut in it, a tin-foil hat, and a complete desire to free your soul from the depths of tyranny.

[tehmastermonk]

I read your definition of Society. Where exactly, Menard, did you find you very limited academic definition for society? Let's not try to narrow our vision to a dot just because it's self serving it doesn't help "society."


Where exactly did you get that definition for society? Let's be clear if you are going to give definitions you have to let us know what authourity you are quoting. Otherwise your argument is false....

The definition I quickly looked up for society is as follows: a highly structured system of human organization for large-scale community living that normally furnishes protection, continuity, security, and a national identity for its members....
Dictionary.com.

You are attempting to be anti society. Those who are against society willfully break the laws of that society and in doing so diminish the protection, continuity, security, and national identity of its members or in other words, law breakers and should be punished.

Just because you don't accept the laws and their intent does not make them not exist.
It's kind of like saying "I'm starving but I don't believe it so it doesn't exist," the laws of nature will tell you differently and you will eventually be punished by ignoring it... Even mother nature has laws or rules that are in your best interest to follow. Likewise society has rules and laws that are in our best interest to follow so that we may all have protection, continuity, security, and national identity.
I don't need to use a slippery slope argument as to what would happen if we could travel without proper government issued id (because you have to go through checks and proofs to get it) because it has already happened or were you under a rock on 9/11?

Happy Canada Day Even though you don't deserve it Menard.

first of all your source fo societey is the laymans term. Robs issue is a legal one and that is where his defenitions come from. use bouvier's law dictionary or blacks law dictionary.

after that look at the laws rob refers to, and the defenitions are right there in the act he is taking from. Robs definitions do not come from his opinions. they come from dictionarys about law. and Rob lets teh law speak for itself and law determins what the law means.

[short bus]

can you please learn to spell or use a frickin spellcheck?

your posts are painfull to read.

better yet, just go away

[tehmastermonk]

there there.. its ok...