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If you do really, really well with the media followup, it'll be a Senate committee/RCMP combination investigation. Called for, by the NDP, allowed for, by the Conservatives.
It'll take two years, (2015) and be the major election platform for Trudeau Jr.
As PM, he will condemn the actions of the evil Conservatives and their (finally shutdown) Robo-Modifier-Mega-Server; found in the basement at 24 Sussex Drive.

Of course, in the two years leading to...Canada will be shed of the ghastly TFW plague, in preparation for 2019... and the renamed Progressive Conservative Socialist Party...(yea, that's up for grabs now)
Their platform...

"We believe Canadian jobs are for Canadians" ( Rocky theme at the convention)

Yes, Canadian politics are a joke. (a lot like religion, at times) Unfortunately, these postering premadanas actually do hold Canadians hostage to their shenanigans. The best way to deal yourself into the game, is through the media; you can't afford a lobby group, to schmooze on your behalf...
So, you have to Entice-the Media, Embarrass-the Government, and Empower-the Opposition.

You know where that order came from. Where else but from the Minister's office (yes, a clerk will lose his job).

Right now though, they are playing the "Who's going to lose their job, THIS TIME"...Game.
First a clerk, then the Minister. Then, we could consider the matter closed.
If just the clerk, then the investigation.


If, the matter is followed up properly, of course...

You'd think that it was all just nonsense, except for the fact that these people are actually running the Country... :lol:


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Has anyone heard from the Transport Canada Enforcement office with regards to FLVCs ?

They are ignoring g all the complaints they are receiving and seem to think that if they just wait it out, the problem will go away by itself.......

A bit similar to the Immigration Minister who ignored the petition signed by 2500 pilots and submitted to him on June 13 2012. I guess he thought that problem has gone away too......
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They are ignoring g all the complaints they are receiving and seem to think that if they just wait it out, the problem will go away by itself.......
Maybe their collective IQ is not high enough to have figured out a believable reply yet?
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It seems like the Thomson pilots who came to work for Sunwing this winter did not come to work with an FLVC but obtained a Canadian ATPL last fall. That is what the regulations require.

What does Thomson know that Transport Canada does not?
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Received an anonymous message from someone who claims to be a Transport Canada Insider. This person sent me the message that I must take Transport to court over the Foreign Licence Validations and that I will assuredly win if I do. The person sent this document that contains all the relevant CARs.

This is the third TC insider who makes contact with me about this. Why can't these insiders just tell their colleagues and their boss Martin Eley, that the FLVCs are illegal and that Transport Canada erred in issuing them in the first place ? The fact that they can't says a lot about the way Transport Canada is run.

Transport Canada promotes SMS to the airlines but Transport Canada inspectors are afraid or unable to speak out when they think FLVCs are issued illegally and have to resort to sending me anonymous messages or asking me to hide their identities ?

Something is very very wrong here.

Here is the document I received (in french)

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/105 ... ots__.docx
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This is the third TC insider who makes contact with me about this. Why can't these insiders just tell their colleagues and their boo Martin Eley, that the FLVCs are illegal and that Transport Canada erred in issuing them in the first place ? The fact that they can't says a lot about the way Transport Canada is run.
From my experience with TCCA their top management would be kicked out of the Hells Angles because the Hells Angles require a higher moral compass than TCCA does.

Just go find the record of how the former DGCA acted when in front of Parliament, that should be enough to make you weep.

Take them in front of a Federal Judge for failing to enforce Federal law.

Let the judge decide the issue.

It worked for me.

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Gilles Hudicourt wrote:I must take Transport to court over the Foreign Licence Validations and that I will assuredly win if I do.

Make it a class action. I'm in.
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I received this just now...

Good day,



Thank you for contacting Transport Canada.



I am writing you today to follow up on your concerns about whether a foreign licence validation certificate (FLVC) is a licence required by Part IV for the purposes of Subparts 703, 704 and 705 of the Canadian Aviation Regulations (CARs).



Subpart 401 of the CARs and the personnel licensing standards specify the requirements to be met to obtain a FLVC. The department has reviewed the requirements of Subparts 401 and 703, 704 and 705 of the CARs and confirms that it is our position that an FLVC falls within the meaning of a “licence…required by Part IV” as that phrase is used in Subparts 703, 704 and 705. As such, this is not an enforcement issue.



Thank you for bringing this concern to our attention. Please rest assured that our first priority is to promote the highest level of safety in the aviation system.



Yours truly,





Julien A.
Information Officer /Agent d'information
Civil Aviation Secretariat/ Secrétariat de l'aviation civile
Transport Canada Civil Aviation Communications Centre/
Centre de communications de l’Aviation civile, Transports Canada
1 800 305-2059
Facsimile / Télécopieur 613-957-4208
services@tc.gc.ca
TTY / ATS (613) 990-4500
Place de Ville (AARCB), Ottawa ON K1A 0N5
http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/menu.htm

Government of Canada / Gouvernement du Canada

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Subpart 401 of the CARs and the personnel licensing standards specify the requirements to be met to obtain a FLVC. The department has reviewed the requirements of Subparts 401 and 703, 704 and 705 of the CARs and confirms that it is our position that an FLVC falls within the meaning of a “licence…required by Part IV” as that phrase is used in Subparts 703, 704 and 705. As such, this is not an enforcement issue.

Hmmmmm....


The above is typical of TC when they get in a bind with their interpretation of the CAR's or their outright refusing to follow them.

I want to see a Federal Court make the determination on this subject.....not some government drone who can't even spell or use spell check when writing a letter.

Even more important I would like to see the news media coverage of said trail.
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Julien A.
Information Officer /Agent d'information
Civil Aviation Secretariat/ Secrétariat de l'aviation civile
Transport Canada Civil Aviation Communications Centre/
Centre de communications de l’Aviation civile, Transports Canada
1 800 305-2059
Facsimile / Télécopieur 613-957-4208
services@tc.gc.ca
TTY / ATS (613) 990-4500
Place de Ville (AARCB), Ottawa ON K1A 0N5
http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/menu.htm

Government of Canada / Gouvernement du Canada
Someone should ask Harpers Minister of Transport to find out who this Julien A is and who is having Julien stonewall the citizens of Canada.
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I received this reply via email and am getting reports that everyone who sent emails are receiving the exact same reply, although they are not all signed by the same person. It's a bit odd because I never wrote to Mr Eley, but to Jean Francois Mathieu.

Can any of those who sent registered letters confirm if they received any reply ? Was the reply an email ?

The chief Enforcement at TC has an SOP that provides in great detail how he is expected to respond to a complaint about a CARs violation, how he is to analyse the regulation etc. None of this was done. Why ? They claim that they don't have to because no CAR was violated.

Obviously, when they are the ones violating the CARs, they need to have someone else do the enforcement.
SMS is obviously not working within Transport Canada itself.


From: Wright, Shannon [mailto:shannon.wright@tc.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Eley, Martin
Sent: 16 avril 2013 15:08
To: Gilles Hudicourt
Cc: McCrorie, Aaron; Guindon, Denis; Mathieu, Jean-François
Subject: Response to inquiry re; foreign licence validation certificate (FLVC)

Dear Mr. Hudicourt,

I am writing you today to follow up on your concerns about whether a foreign licence validation certificate (FLVC) is a licence required by Part IV for the purposes of Subparts 703, 704 and 705 of the Canadian Aviation Regulations (CARs).

Subpart 401 of the CARs and the personnel licensing standards specify the requirements to be met to obtain a FLVC. The department has reviewed the requirements of Subparts 401 and 703, 704 and 705 of the CARs and confirms that it is our position that an FLVC falls within the meaning of a “licence…required by Part IV” as that phrase is used in Subparts 703, 704 and 705.

Thank you for bringing this concern to my attention. Please rest assured that our first priority is to promote the highest level of safety in the aviation system.

Yours truly,



Martin J. Eley
Director General Civil Aviation/Directeur général Aviation civile
martin.eley@tc.gc.ca (613) 990-1322 /(C) (613) 850-9689 http://www.tc.gc.ca
facsimile / télécopieur (613) 957-4208 TTY / ATS (613) 990-4500
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I received this reply via email and am getting reports that everyone who sent emails are receiving the exact same reply, although they are not all signed by the same person. It's a bit odd because I never wrote to Mr Eley, but to Jean Francois Mathieu.
You are making great progress Gilles.

I have a doctorate in how to deal with these weasels.

Now that Martin J. Eley has entered this mess they have created you must not get all excited that the DGCA seems to be communicating with you......he is not really, it is just another ploy to stonewall you.

You now must go to his superior.....the Director General Transport Canada and ask for his/her intervention into this matter.

Remember the real target is the Minister of Transport who has the job of protecting Stephen Harper from embarrassment.

So C.C. all further correspondence to the Minister of Transport.


Ahhh...how well I remember dealing with these weasels.

Now you go get'em. :smt040

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Cat Driver wrote:
Subpart 401 of the CARs and the personnel licensing standards specify the requirements to be met to obtain a FLVC. The department has reviewed the requirements of Subparts 401 and 703, 704 and 705 of the CARs and confirms that it is our position that an FLVC falls within the meaning of a “licence…required by Part IV” as that phrase is used in Subparts 703, 704 and 705. As such, this is not an enforcement issue.
Hmmmmm....

.....interesting that " The department can't spell license or is confused as to the difference between licence and license.
Not sure where you're heading with that line of thought, . (south to the U.S., perhaps :wink: ). The terms appear to be correctly used for Canadian English:

PART IV — PERSONNEL LICENSING AND TRAINING (the verb)
Subpart 1 — Flight Crew Permits, Licences and Ratings (the noun)
In American English, license is both a noun and a verb, and licence isn’t used. For example, one who is licensed to drive has a driver’s license. In all the other main varieties of English, licence is the noun, and license is the verb. So, for instance, one who is licensed to perform dental surgery has a dental surgeon’s licence.
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yeh CD, I realized the use can be different in different countries and changed my post just before you caught it. :mrgreen:

No one is perfect, and we sometimes fixate without thinking it through.

I will try and be more careful..... :mrgreen:
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Cat Driver wrote:You now must go to his superior.....the Director General Transport Canada and ask for his/her intervention into this matter.
Here's another one for ya... As we've discussed in the past, there is no such position in the organization. The next position up from the Director General, Civil Aviation is the Assistant Deputy Minister, Safety and Security:

Transport Canada - Organizational Chart
Transport Canada - Safety and Security Group

Now, if I could only make it out to the coast for a visit and you can learn me a thing or three... :smt023
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When I was defending myself from TCCA I was contacted by the Director General Transport Canada who claimed to be the person that oversaw all of Transport Canadas divisions.

He claimed to be Merlin Preusse's superior.

He wanted to meet with me to " Bring closure to these matters " is still get nauseous just thinking about the weasel words these people use to try and make you think they are realy going to correct anything they have screwed up.

He said I could meet with him in any TCCA office.

I told him I had more self worth than come to him so if he wanted to meet with me he had my home address.

I still can't get the feeling of contamination out of the house since he was here.

Back to Gilles and his efforts on behalf of aviation in Canada.

I admire what he is trying to do.

Which is bring clarity to a blurred issue.

That can only be done outside of TCCA's kangaroo court.

In my humble opinion of course.

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The response I got was from another guy;

Dear Mr. Jean Luc Monette

I am writing you today to follow up on your concerns about whether a foreign licence validation certificate (FLVC) is a licence required by Part IV for the purposes of Subparts 703, 704 and 705 of the Canadian Aviation Regulations (CARs).

Subpart 401 of the CARs and the personnel licensing standards specify the requirements to be met to obtain a FLVC. The department has reviewed the requirements of Subparts 401 and 703, 704 and 705 of the CARs and confirms that it is our position that an FLVC falls within the meaning of a “licence…required by Part IV” as that phrase is used in Subparts 703, 704 and 705. As such, this is not an enforcement issue.

Thank you for bringing this concern to our attention. Please rest assured that our first priority is to promote the highest level of safety in the aviation system.

Yours truly,

Aaron McCrorie


Aaron J. McCrorie
Director Standards, Civil Aviation / Directeur des normes, Aviation civile
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They are going to have everyone at TC sign one of the emails to compromise everyone of them......... :lol:
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So if a FLVC is a license then all those guys and gals who were issued them have Canadian licenses and can work for any airline in Canada.
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Cat Driver wrote:So if a FLVC is a license then all those guys and gals who were issued them have Canadian licenses and can work for any airline in Canada.
Not necessarily. There are lots of us on here who have FAA ATPL's. We don't hare the right to work in America though.
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The following emails were obtained through an access to Information request submitted to Transport Canada by someone else who later communicated them to me.

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Normally, when Transport Canada is solicited by users such as airline pilots to clarify Aviation Regulations, they send a reply about the regulations. When I wrote several long emails to Mr Mathieu to inform him that I thought that issuing FLVCs to foreign licensed pilots to fly revenue flights under Part VII was contrary to the CARs, I expected him to either agree or to counter my reasoning with counter argument based on Regulations and reasoning, structured similarly to my complaint.
Mr Mathieu is not only a Licensed Commercial pilot, he is also a licensed lawyer.

But his reaction to my emails was not at all what I had expected. First, to this day, he never replied to me, he just ignored me. Instead he wrote two emails to Mr Sean Borg, of Transport Canada.

Here are those two emails. In the first, Mr Mathieu states that he does not think that the illegal FLVC is an enforcement issue.

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In the second, Mr Mathieu asks Mr Sean if he (Mathieu) should reply to me or if Mr Sean would handle the issue at his level.

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Who is this Mr Borg that Mr Mathieu is the first person to write to with regards to FLVCs, after receiving a complaint from a pilot which considers that the use of FLVCs are illegal for revenue flights under PArt VII?

According the Federal employee database, Mr Sean P. Borg is A/Director, Civil Aviation Secretariat- Transport Canada -Civil Aviation Secretariat Branch 330 Sparks Street Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0N5 Canada Telephone : 613-990-5448 E-mail : sean.borg@tc.gc.ca.
But under his emails, there is a different title: It states that he is the Chief, Strategic Communications, Civil Aviation, Transport Canada.

So Transport Canada's strategy with regards to the FLVC issue is clear from day one: Mr Mathieu received a long technical email containing an analysis the CARs, which reaches a conclusion that does not concur with what Transport Canada has been doing, and instead of replying to defend Transport's position with regards to those Regulations, he forwards it to the Chief of Strategic Communications at Transport Canada.

And what does the Chief of Strategic Communications suggest as a course of Action ?

Here Mr Borg's reply:

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Their position is that because the email is copied to the Minister, let's let the political side of Transport Canada reply to this troublemaker. They were most likely in the process of sending me a "thank for writing to the Minister" letter when I asked for your help on AvCanada and posted the form letter for sending a complaint to Mr Mathieu's office.. Many of you answered the call, and Mr Mathieu's office was bombarded with emails and letters from all of you regarding the illegality of the FLVC (thanks a million to those who wrote). I did not count them but he received a brick of them, as this picture illustrates:

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They could no longer just have the Ministerial Inquiries Staff reply with a bland "Thank you for writing to the Minister" letter.

So Mr Mathieu wrote again to Mr Sean, this time copied also to Mr Aaron McCrorie.

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The fact that Mathieu writes in French shows his frustration. He wants to make sure his point is well understood by writing in his mother tongue.

Here is what he writes:
My name, my title and my phone number were published on Social Media (Facebook and AvCanada etc.) which results in my having received in the last few days numerous emails and phone calls concerning the FLVCs. I also received. through the mail, a formal complaint, for investigation. These complaints all originate from different individuals.

I understand that this file is managed at the highest level and I do not want to interfere. However, our policy at Enforcement is to acknowledge receipt of complaints, to record them and to follow up. To just IGNORE THEM does not seem like an option.

Could you please provide me with instructions on how to deal with these complaints that are addressed to me ?
Who is Aaron McCrorie that Mr Mathieu decides to brings into the loop at this time ?

He is the the Director, Standards - Transport Canada - Standards 330 Sparks Street
Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0N5 Telephone : 613-991-6477 E-mail : aaron.mccrorie@tc.gc.ca

What do these two Transport Canada officials have to reply to this cry for help from Mr Mathieu ?

Mr Sean Borg:

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Jean-François, Aaron,

We are going to develop a strategy that takes into account the implication of Social Media. We will reply to you in a few weeks. For the time being, I recommend to NOT REPLY. We have a legal opinion that indicates that our approach is in accordance with Regulations.
Mr Sean Borg tells Mr Mathieu to violate his own SOP and to just ignore the plaintiffs. Mr Mathieu followed that advice for he never replied to anyone (I can quote Mr Mathieu's SOP, of which I have a copy, if anyone is interested)
It shows how much respect Transport Canada has for Canada's airline pilots.

(We tried to get a copy that that legal opinion from the Department of Justice through an access to Information request but is was sent completely blacked out. It seems that the Justice' Department opinion on the legality of FLVCs is not something the general public or Airline Pilots in Canada are allowed to see)

Here is what Mr McCrowie had to reply:

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So the Justice's Department Legal Opinion is secret. What does Transport Canada's Chief of Strategic Communications come up with as a plan of action:

All those who complained received a short letter stating the following:
I am writing you today to follow up on your concerns about whether a foreign licence validation certificate (FLVC) is a licence required by Part IV for the purposes of Subparts 703, 704 and 705 of the Canadian Aviation Regulations (CARs).

Subpart 401 of the CARs and the personnel licensing standards specify the requirements to be met to obtain a FLVC. The department has reviewed the requirements of Subparts 401 and 703, 704 and 705 of the CARs and confirms that it is our position that an FLVC falls within the meaning of a “licence…required by Part IV” as that phrase is used in Subparts 703, 704 and 705.
So their position is that an FLVC is the same as a Canadian Licence when CAR 703, 704 and 705 indicate that one needs a Canadian Licence to fly revenue flights under Part VII.

But we do not to see the full analysis of the CARs made by the Department of Justice to come up with that conclusion. That is secret.

Now Jean-François Mathieu is no fool, and like all of us and is capable of doing Regulation analysis of his own. And he did just that on the copy of the formal complaint that he received through registered mail. Here is an excerp from that complaint with tons of Mr Mathieu's hand written notes in the margins.

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But all these notes were hidden from our view before this document was released to us. Could it be that Mr Mathieu concurred with us and wanted to hide this from us? How could he not ? The Regulations all point to the restrictive and temporary nature of the FLVCs. How can the Minister go from the restrictive and exceptional nature of an FLVC and decide that the FLVC is to be considered the equivalent of a Canadian Aviation Document ?

We are all fools is what we are told. And the Justice's Department's Legal Opinion ? Not for fools to look at. They would likely find faults in the reasoning wouldn't they ?

As a side note, before Mr Mathieu was bombarded with your complaints (thank you all for your help), one of his colleagues decided to write to him. And guess what ? He put down on paper that he agrees with what we claim: that FLVCs are illegal for revenue flights under part VII.

Although part of Mr Speer's opinion was hidden from us, here is the part of the email that we were allowed to read:

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...those part 7 sections may well preclude a pilot with such a validation from serving as a flight crew member in a part 7 operation.....
That is precisely what we all claim Mr Speer. Thank you for your support. We are happy that at least one person at Transport either did not get the message from the higher spheres of Transport to STFU on the subject of FLVC and let the Communication wizards handle this embarrassing Regulatory issue..... or maybe he just had the guts to ignore the gag order and not only provide his opinion, but do it in writing on top of it.

Who is Mr Speer ?

Arlo Speer
Chief, Recreational and Special Flight Operations
Transport Canada
330 Sparks Street
Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0N5
Canada
Telephone : 613-990-1022
Fax : 613-990-6215
E-mail : arlo.speer@tc.gc.ca
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An interesting read Gilles but is it possible to preface your last post with some more information?? Where do all these emails come from?? I'm guessing it was some sort of access to information request?? I'm quite surprised that this volume of personal communication is available to an individual. In no way is this a critique at all... I'm just curious as to how one goes about this sort of stuff and honestly amazed that there might be hope for the democratic process after all!
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Gilles, have you presented all this to the people at W5 or The Fifth Estate? This kind of shell game should be right up their alley.
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Takeoff OK wrote:Gilles, have you presented all this to the people at W5 or The Fifth Estate? This kind of shell game should be right up their alley.
These guys like meals ready to eat (MRE). If I was in possession of a legal opinion from a reputable aviation law firm stating with authority that FLVCs are illegal I would have such a MRE to feed to the media. But I do not have the budget to obtain such a legal opinion.

I am going to try to convince ALPA that we should try to obtain one.
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