Your welcome.Cat Driver wrote:Thanks mcrit for pointing out these flaws I have.
advice for starting a charter compamy
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Re: advice for starting a charter compamy
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Re: advice for starting a charter compamy
mcrit, I have found that one has to be very skeptical of those who pontificate and rail against the morals of others, an excellent example can be found by Googling the Reverend Ted Haggard. 
Xsbank had it just about bang on, you are like having a hard wood sliver under ones fingernail.
Xsbank had it just about bang on, you are like having a hard wood sliver under ones fingernail.
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
			
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Re: advice for starting a charter compamy
Well Cat, if you and XS don't like me I must be doing something right.  BTW, I wasn't attacking your morals when I made the quip about paying for sex, I was just saying that you were pathetic (i.e. worthy of pity).  I've never had to resort to my wallet to get company for the evening, but I can see how your personality might have made  pay-as-you-go (or in this case, come) the only viable option.
My advice for people seeking mentors is this; there are plenty of fellows that can teach you what Cat can and who aren't nuts. Find one of them.
My advice for people seeking mentors is this; there are plenty of fellows that can teach you what Cat can and who aren't nuts. Find one of them.
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Re: advice for starting a charter compamy

The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
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Re: advice for starting a charter compamy
[quote="trey kule"
Your posts have certainly had an impact on my perspective lately. And from the PM's I am getting, some others also. And by others I mean the young and eager in the business.
Your cleverness, and that of several others may not be working the way you think it is.[/quote]
Trey Kule, I'm glad that you seem to be pulling ahead in your exit poll results in the vote for "Mr. Congenialty" of the Av Canada Forum. I'm sure that another aviation fan, The Duke of Windsor will be the next to add his glowing endorsement to your campaign. Stand-by for his incoming PM. It can't be far away.
Is comedian Al Franken assisting with the vote counting?
As far as having an opinion, you certainly are entitled to have one, post it on every forum from Outer Mongolia to Capetown, scream it from the rooftops with a bullhorn, hold candlelight vigils, take out billboards and TV commercials. This is Canada after all and you are free to express those opinions for public examination and scrutiny.
Despite the strength of your convictions, and passion with which the message is delivered, if someone in the crowd at "Speakers Corner" fails to salute your opinion when you run it up the flagpole, so be it. Perhaps it is a flag that just won't fly.
There has been no "attack" on you by me. I'm merely posting my opinion which has been formed by my life experience ... which is obviously different than yours. We most likely have different leadership, managerial, and communications skills when under stress. Arguably, in your opinion, yours works for you. More power to you. Keep on screaming it from the rooftops to whatever group of conspiracy theorists that will listen.
You seem to have set up an interpersonal relationship with the people who determine if you remain in business or not that works for you as an operator or manager, and perhaps you live life as if you are afraid of nightly gang-rapes by guards in a Guatemalan prison. That's a pretty poor mental state to be in for extended periods.
I choose to conduct my business affairs in a different manner than you and every few years I express that on AvCanada while you describe how you are being screwed over every few days or weeks, so what's the beef with that?
Fog
Your posts have certainly had an impact on my perspective lately. And from the PM's I am getting, some others also. And by others I mean the young and eager in the business.
Your cleverness, and that of several others may not be working the way you think it is.[/quote]
Trey Kule, I'm glad that you seem to be pulling ahead in your exit poll results in the vote for "Mr. Congenialty" of the Av Canada Forum. I'm sure that another aviation fan, The Duke of Windsor will be the next to add his glowing endorsement to your campaign. Stand-by for his incoming PM. It can't be far away.
Is comedian Al Franken assisting with the vote counting?
As far as having an opinion, you certainly are entitled to have one, post it on every forum from Outer Mongolia to Capetown, scream it from the rooftops with a bullhorn, hold candlelight vigils, take out billboards and TV commercials. This is Canada after all and you are free to express those opinions for public examination and scrutiny.
Despite the strength of your convictions, and passion with which the message is delivered, if someone in the crowd at "Speakers Corner" fails to salute your opinion when you run it up the flagpole, so be it. Perhaps it is a flag that just won't fly.
There has been no "attack" on you by me. I'm merely posting my opinion which has been formed by my life experience ... which is obviously different than yours. We most likely have different leadership, managerial, and communications skills when under stress. Arguably, in your opinion, yours works for you. More power to you. Keep on screaming it from the rooftops to whatever group of conspiracy theorists that will listen.
You seem to have set up an interpersonal relationship with the people who determine if you remain in business or not that works for you as an operator or manager, and perhaps you live life as if you are afraid of nightly gang-rapes by guards in a Guatemalan prison. That's a pretty poor mental state to be in for extended periods.
I choose to conduct my business affairs in a different manner than you and every few years I express that on AvCanada while you describe how you are being screwed over every few days or weeks, so what's the beef with that?
Fog
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Re: advice for starting a charter compamy
Cat wrote:  
I’ve said it before. I really don’t think TC care about your rants. I would be very surprised if Merlin Preuss knows or cares about them. I don`t care about your dispute with TC. It`s just sad that your bitterness (& that of some others) is so pervasive here.If you truly believe that the allegations that I so openly make against some of the top people in TCCA are untrue why would you not demand that these people hold me accountable by the simple act of serving me with a subpoena charging me with liable to appear in a Federal court to answer for my allegations?
Or is that to difficult a concept for you contemplate and act on?
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Prairie Chicken, even after spending several years dealing with the arrogance and lack of concern for the so called " Clients " TC is supposed to protect by oversight of Federal law I am still amazed at how out of touch with reality some of you TC people truly are.
To allow your answer to a question that related to proven moral corruption by the top bureaucrat in TCCA and several of his top managers to go unchallenged would be a disservice to my colleagues in aviation.
By describing the allegations that I have made as " rants " you are obviously trying to white wash these issues by making them appear to be the ravings of someone who is making untrue allegations. On many occasions I have asked you to respond to specific acts by named TCCA officials that were proven to be true and said acts were in contrevention of the very laws these people are supposed to uphold. You choose to refuse to do so and instead try and shoot the messenger.
As to the issue of weather or not he cares about them that is what is at the root of these issues, how can you possibly be satisfied with a DGCA who has no intrest in upholding the rules, policies and laws of a Federal Governing body that his office is in charge of?
I am being very specific here by targeting the young people because it is they who will be shaping what this industry will be in the future.
I am confident that the younger generation are very astute and have the capacity to examine things and come to conclusions that will be to their best interests...reading such a callous statement as you have made masquerading under the banner of TCCA will when they examine what it really says be revolting to them and their trust in the system will be damaged.
You would be in a better position to have credibility if you would do as I do, come out from behind the safety of anonymity.
I post here confident in the fact that my career in aviation which has been long and unblemished by accidents or regulatory infractions gives me at least some credibility.
Last but not least:
I am not " bitter " I am " revolted " knowing that there are people like you in positions of trust who have the power to make or break those who they regulate with no regard for morals or the rule of law.
To allow your answer to a question that related to proven moral corruption by the top bureaucrat in TCCA and several of his top managers to go unchallenged would be a disservice to my colleagues in aviation.
Which shows all to clearly just how corrupt TCCA has become under its present management.I’ve said it before. I really don’t think TC care about your rants.
By describing the allegations that I have made as " rants " you are obviously trying to white wash these issues by making them appear to be the ravings of someone who is making untrue allegations. On many occasions I have asked you to respond to specific acts by named TCCA officials that were proven to be true and said acts were in contrevention of the very laws these people are supposed to uphold. You choose to refuse to do so and instead try and shoot the messenger.
I can assure you he knows about them.
I would be very surprised if Merlin Preuss knows or cares about them.
As to the issue of weather or not he cares about them that is what is at the root of these issues, how can you possibly be satisfied with a DGCA who has no intrest in upholding the rules, policies and laws of a Federal Governing body that his office is in charge of?
I want every young person who reads Avcanada to think about this shocking admission by someone who claims to be an ex TCCA employee.I don`t care about your dispute with TC.
I am being very specific here by targeting the young people because it is they who will be shaping what this industry will be in the future.
I am confident that the younger generation are very astute and have the capacity to examine things and come to conclusions that will be to their best interests...reading such a callous statement as you have made masquerading under the banner of TCCA will when they examine what it really says be revolting to them and their trust in the system will be damaged.
You either are in denial or you do not have the capacity to see or understand that the system you so wrongly are defending is broken and in dire need of fixing.
It`s just sad that your bitterness (& that of some others) is so pervasive here.
You would be in a better position to have credibility if you would do as I do, come out from behind the safety of anonymity.
I post here confident in the fact that my career in aviation which has been long and unblemished by accidents or regulatory infractions gives me at least some credibility.
Last but not least:
You have made a fatal error in deduction as to my true feelings Prairie Chicken.It`s just sad that your bitterness (& that of some others) is so pervasive here.
I am not " bitter " I am " revolted " knowing that there are people like you in positions of trust who have the power to make or break those who they regulate with no regard for morals or the rule of law.
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
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Re: advice for starting a charter compamy
I am finished with this thread and will no longer respond to anyone who defends TCCA in this thread.
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
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Re: advice for starting a charter compamy
One can't help but wonder precisely why that is. A mere coincidence?your bitterness (& that of some others) is so pervasive here
Anyways, there are many good people at Transport. Why they
choose to voluntarily work for such a dysfunctional organization
is greatly mystifying to me, but I will not look a gift horse in the
mouth.
What is even more mystifying to me is the promotion policies at
Transport. It would appear that nearly always, the wrong people
are moved up to positions of greater authority. The questionable
actions of these people - many of whom I would not let push my
lawn mower - and their complete lack of accountability for their
actions may very well have something to do with Transport's reputation.
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Cat ... good plan.
Hedley wrote about there being some good people at TC, and TC’s promotion policies. He’s got a valid point. I believe one major contributing factors is that financial reward for management positions are not significantly greater than for the working level CAI. Many of those ‘good people’ are unwilling to take on the additional responsibilities and frustrations of management without adequate reward. Promotion is based on an individual applying for a position, and many ‘good people’ simply don’t apply.
There is also the bilingual issue, which is much more relevant east of PNR. In some regions, and more and more often, unless you’re bilingual or willing to learn, you simply don’t qualify for a supervisory position.
Hedley wrote about there being some good people at TC, and TC’s promotion policies. He’s got a valid point. I believe one major contributing factors is that financial reward for management positions are not significantly greater than for the working level CAI. Many of those ‘good people’ are unwilling to take on the additional responsibilities and frustrations of management without adequate reward. Promotion is based on an individual applying for a position, and many ‘good people’ simply don’t apply.
There is also the bilingual issue, which is much more relevant east of PNR. In some regions, and more and more often, unless you’re bilingual or willing to learn, you simply don’t qualify for a supervisory position.
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Re: advice for starting a charter compamy
THis post sure seems to of got off topic!
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Save, your money.  And, your sanity.





