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Re: New hire bids

#126 Post by flyer 1492 » Fri May 26, 2017 7:29 am

Latest ground school draw was all YUL 6 DH8, 6 CRJ
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#127 Post by HansDietrich » Sun May 28, 2017 12:11 pm

flyer 1492 wrote:Latest ground school draw was all YUL 6 DH8, 6 CRJ
Lots of YUL DH8 guys and girls are switching bases. It's tough to live in Montreal if you don't speak French, especially for those pilots with spouses. Finding work is not as easy as people think.
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#128 Post by Zoo till Two » Sun May 28, 2017 5:13 pm

HansDietrich wrote:
flyer 1492 wrote:Latest ground school draw was all YUL 6 DH8, 6 CRJ
Lots of YUL DH8 guys and girls are switching bases. It's tough to live in Montreal if you don't speak French, especially for those pilots with spouses. Finding work is not as easy as people think.
Everyone in montreal knows English, I don't speak French and live in Yul. My buddy is a bar tender here and doesn't know a lick of French. If you are new to jazz, don't be scared to stay and embrace it a bit. Might surprise yourself. People switch bases for lots of reasons but it's also a good opportunity to have a good job in an awesome city. There are those who hate every second here because it's not Calgary or Vancouver and those who embrace their time in a new culture.

New hires, don't listen to Hans. It's not tough to live here. It's awesome. As for spouses, meh, whatever.
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#129 Post by mmm..bacon » Sun May 28, 2017 6:21 pm

Zoo till Two wrote: As for spouses, meh, whatever.
..Spoken like someone who's not married :roll:
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#130 Post by Monorail Conductor » Sun May 28, 2017 6:36 pm

Long layovers in YZV YGR etc can be difficult to get around without a lick of french. Tho thats not just yul base flying, we even see tbose layovers out of yyz
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#131 Post by av8ts » Mon May 29, 2017 4:20 am

mmm..bacon wrote:
Zoo till Two wrote: As for spouses, meh, whatever.
..Spoken like someone who's not married :roll:
Or shouldn't be
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#132 Post by HansDietrich » Mon May 29, 2017 5:22 am

Zoo till Two wrote:
HansDietrich wrote:
flyer 1492 wrote:Latest ground school draw was all YUL 6 DH8, 6 CRJ
Lots of YUL DH8 guys and girls are switching bases. It's tough to live in Montreal if you don't speak French, especially for those pilots with spouses. Finding work is not as easy as people think.
Everyone in montreal knows English, I don't speak French and live in Yul. My buddy is a bar tender here and doesn't know a lick of French. If you are new to jazz, don't be scared to stay and embrace it a bit. Might surprise yourself. People switch bases for lots of reasons but it's also a good opportunity to have a good job in an awesome city. There are those who hate every second here because it's not Calgary or Vancouver and those who embrace their time in a new culture.

New hires, don't listen to Hans. It's not tough to live here. It's awesome. As for spouses, meh, whatever.
Spoken like a juvenile. "Bar Tender" I'm surprised you didn't say "McDonalds Drive Thru associate".

Some of our significant others have high paying jobs and degrees, that unfortunately without French, would never get an equivalent job in Quebec. Their careers are important to them and, more often than not, make significantly more money than what Jazz pays their new F/Os. Remember, not everyone at Jazz is a single 24 year old "dude", that's cool living with 3 roommates and take the 747 bus to work every morning.

Some of us "older farts" actually have wives, husbands and children.

But if I were a single 24 year old, sure, Montreal would be a great place. Nice people, good looking women, great party atmosphere and French is not an issue.
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#133 Post by leftoftrack » Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:53 am

If you dont want the job, dont join.
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#134 Post by goingnowherefast » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:22 am

Is there any truth to the rumour that Jazz can't fill the new hire classes? This thread seems to point in that direction too. Wanted 20, but only got 12.
KenoraPilot (on May 12th) wrote:Just received an email for the 2017 hiring outlook for jazz. They are planning on hiring 20 new hires every two weeks for the remainder of 2017
flyer 1492 wrote:Latest ground school draw was all YUL 6 DH8, 6 CRJ
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#135 Post by skypirate88 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:50 am

I wouldn't be surprised given the current environment.

That said, the class that started June 5th has 20 in it.
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#136 Post by lock15 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:13 am

Anybody get the inside scoop on the base/equipment from the June 5th class?

And to contribute to the GS class size, I'm pretty sure there's 14 for the June 19th course.
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#137 Post by Rowdy » Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:15 am

There have been a bunch of classes that could not be filled(for reasons that have not been mentioned). I saw there was discussion at the last ALPA meeting on the topic. It very well could be that they are unable to attract candidates due to compensation.

I think many of those interested in going to AC are having doubts now that the PML v2.0 isn't a guarantee (far from it actually) and are waiting it out, while many others are staying at their other 704 and 705 jobs due to the initial pay. Its a pilots market right now. Sadly the operators are still thinking it's 1989...
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#138 Post by Magnetron » Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:59 pm

June 5th Class (from someone in that class)

YUL: 4 CRJ, 6 DH8, 3 Q400
YYZ: 2 DH8, 1 Q400
YYC: 3 Q400
YVR: 1 Q400
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#139 Post by HansDietrich » Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:25 am

Rowdy wrote:... Sadly the operators are still thinking it's 1989...
I agree with this 100%. I heard from friends at Porter (for example) that they are quite short on qualified pilots as well.

What are these managers thinking? Aviation is a dynamic industry and they're so resistant to change that, sometimes, it's hard to believe certain airlines (like Evas) are still operating.

It's not like this sprung up overnight...
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#140 Post by Kosiw » Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:05 pm

If Jazz can still afford to dole out PFO's, then they can't be hurting too badly for qualified candidates.
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#141 Post by yycinformer » Thu Jun 08, 2017 4:13 pm

Any have an insight on what the folks in the latest classes have for time? TT, ME, PIC, Multicrew etc
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#142 Post by ThatFliGuyDerr » Thu Jun 08, 2017 4:23 pm

Just an example of one company starting to struggle is Wasaya. They had a job posting looking for 44 pilots! That closed on the 7th of June. Those positions ranged from Caravan, to Dash 8.
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#143 Post by goingnowherefast » Thu Jun 08, 2017 5:34 pm

Kosiw wrote:If Jazz can still afford to dole out PFO's, then they can't be hurting too badly for qualified candidates.
Sometimes it's better to be understaffed than it is to hire the wrong person.
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#144 Post by Black_Tusk » Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:48 am

I heard PasCo upped left seat pay on the 1900 and now you're able to make over 100k/yr.
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Kosiw wrote:If Jazz can still afford to dole out PFO's, then they can't be hurting too badly for qualified candidates.
Sometimes it's better to be understaffed than it is to hire the wrong person.
Agreed. Especially with the fast upgrades, they have to hire people that can be a Captain in a year.
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#145 Post by foxtrotlimayankee » Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:00 am

What did this weeks class have for base and types?
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#146 Post by garfield » Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:13 am

They don't have enough applications of qualified people...

They should ask themselves, would I live in YYZ at 34K a year? Doing solely reserve with 2 or 3 days OFF in a row maximum for the first year?

Canada will end up like Asia, they're gonna hire 250 hours folks for right seat and offer stratospheric salaries for experienced and skilled people.
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#147 Post by lock15 » Sat Jun 24, 2017 5:01 am

June 19th class

YUL - 6 CRJ
YUL - 6 DH8
YYZ - 2 DH8
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#148 Post by goingnowherefast » Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:18 am

Seems empty spots in ground schools are becoming quite common. How long until until planes are routinely getting parked?
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#149 Post by Black_Tusk » Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:26 am

goingnowherefast wrote:Seems empty spots in ground schools are becoming quite common. How long until until planes are routinely getting parked?
I don't think that's too far away. I get called almost every day I'm off for overtime, and turn most of it down. The CRJ new hire class from last month are also now on a one month break before entering the SIM because there are no time slots available. The CRJ is very understaffed through the whole system, especially out west.
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#150 Post by Blueshift » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:38 pm

Any updates from the latest ground school?
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