Northern Wilderness Otter in Dryden.

[Maynard]

crazyaviator is just mad because he's actually Kasper's alter ego and upset that Northern Wilderness is stealing his freight business. With his 1500 hours of "mostly" commercial float flying, who are we to judge? He was there, on the dock, remember? He saw the whole thing! He also got an A+ in Met, so he new the steepness of the cold front that was barreling down over the great plains of North Dakota would soon push into the highly unstable air mass nestled over the serene ontario bushland somewhere between lower manitou and dogtooth and collide with quite literally 'thunderous' power! Every aviatior from crane lake to muskrat dam would know better than to loosen the half hitch, giving the cleat freedom...

[Maynard]

http://climate.weather.gc.ca/radar/inde ... THEROFFICE

Look how fast and intense the storms popped up. I can't think of anyone who would say "Nah, the radar is clear, but I feel it in my bones, somethings coming. I'm going to wait out the blue skies."

[crazyaviator]

Maynard I liked that !!!

[pelmet]

I liked that !!!

So bottom line...you don't know what the F### you are talking about and make wild assumptions evidence. The last time I read something from you it was ridiculous exaggeration about a flying experience of yours.

I suggest no one believe anything you say.

[goingnowherefast]

I admit, I know not about the otters and its ways , but was it parked and tied down in an approaching storm or was there an attempt to dock it IN a storm?

It was docked BEFORE the storm. The pilot wasn't near the aircraft when the storm hit the plane.

In a perfect world the plane would have been tied on the other side of the dock so the wind is pulling on 3 or 4 good ropes. However thunderstorms are so variable and unpredictable that you can't plan like that.

Years ago, I saw a Cessna on floats get flipped right over onto the dock and land up-side-down. Ripped the rails off the dock too. The pilot had parked it yesterday and was nowhere near the dock. The 3 other planes near by were untouched.

[fish4life]

I can see exactly how this happens, strong crosswind pushing it up against the dock. Throw in big waves and before you know it the 1 foot clearance to the bottom of the dock at normal water levels is gone and the back of the float gets blown under especially with that big tail pushing it even harder. Shit happens, a friend had their Cessna on wheels flipped over in a wind storm that broke the ropes it was tied down to. Was he at fault for not anticipating that? No storms happen it's why you have insurance, it like getting blamed for hail damage to your car.

[crazyaviator]

The aircraft was flown by a very season Otter pilot with bags of experience on floats in Northwestern Ontario. He landed and tied up to the government dock to wait out the approaching storm that appeared to be passing to the north. There was a tornado warning in effect to the north. Anyway the storm hit hard and the aircraft float got shoved under the dock by the waves and wind and well the rest is history.

Finally, someone in the area gave the chronology of the events! The article was vague about WHEN the mishap happened, and when I contacted the paper, they said that the reporter was not on the scene when it happened.
I agree with everyone that having a float stuck under the dock could happen while tied up OR also while docking!

[crazyaviator]

I am being accused of making an assumption without all the facts True I did make an assumption based upon the article !

The last time I read something from you it was ridiculous exaggeration about a flying experience of yours.

I suggest no one believe anything you say.

YOUR assumption of my true experience and then your suggestion is sort of like "who is calling the kettle black"
I have 11+ witnesses + my brother who was there + pictures to back up my experience and my story IS accurate. What do you have to back up your assertion of "ridiculous exaggeration" and " no one believe anything I say" ?

There is a story out there of a tin hat conspiracy theorist going up to Neil Armstrong and telling HIM that men did not land on the moon. Neil punched him out ! That is also what I think of your assumption!

[Rowdy]

There is a story out there of a tin hat conspiracy theorist going up to Neil Armstrong and telling HIM that men did not land on the moon. Neil punched him out ! That is also what I think of your assumption!

....That was actually Buzz Aldrin..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5dr7SEzWBA

But I guess you don't fact check.

[crazyaviator]

My apologies perhaps I should have said " A certain astronaut "

[valleyboy]

[pelmet]

My apologies perhaps I should have said " A certain astronaut "

[Maynard]

Hmmm, Nowhere in NW Ontario he could have set her down for 20 min to wait out the storm? Must be ice on the lakes still ! OR, Maybe he wasn't checked out in his parallel parking yet,,,,,,

The article was vague about WHEN the mishap happened, and when I contacted the paper, they said that the reporter was not on the scene when it happened.

So you knew the article was vague....you knew you had no facts yourself, and you also knew that the article was written by someone that wasn't even there!!
Yet, you still feel the need to write an A-Hole comment about it, and then proceed to argue that he was in the wrong. Seriously, who is ever going to take anything you write on here seriously? Go have a beer with NickyNick and complain about the Airvan that's flying again.....

[crazyaviator]

Must be ice on the lakes still ! OR, Maybe he wasn't checked out in his parallel parking yet,,,,,,

This part was meant to be funny! The part about landing AHEAD of the storm was to elicit questions!

[phillyfan]

Do you ever have that feeling that your losing but your thick skull requires that you get the last word?

[pdw]

If it was staying down for riding out the TS/tornado, then 'tied up at a Government dock' sounds like a real good place to be. For insurance purposes too.

[rookiepilot]

Can I borrow that? I know other blogs this meter would be real handy....

[Hockaloogie]

Can I borrow that? I know other blogs this meter would be real handy....

Try this one...

[valleyboy]

Government dock

- That is a NWO expression meaning "public" as opposed to a private dock --

[bald seagull]

I cast my vote for this thread to be "Worst AVCANADA Thread of 2017"

[chicken hawk]

This thread turned into a total train wreck. A lot of opinions from folks who have never spent a moment in or around an Otter, that much is clear. You get to a good solid dock, tie it down and wait it out. That's all anyone could really do in this sort of situation. What the winds and gusts do is out of your control and it this exact thing has happened to many Otters all over the country. Nothing new!

Go tie your little kiddie, nose dragging planes to some little cement filled tire at the airport. Leave your opinion on tying Otters at the dock to those of us who have been there.

[crazyaviator]

Go tie your little kiddie, nose dragging planes to some little cement filled tire at the airport. Leave your opinion on tying Otters at the dock to those of us who have been there.

Perhaps in your limitless wisdom you have failed to hear what many wise pilots without concrete hangars do in the hurricane belt in the southeast when the big one arrives? THEY FLY their little airplanes to ANOTHER state for safety! But alas, that would be too much of thinking outside the box ( or state) for you now wouldn't it LOL

[Meatservo]

Go tie your little kiddie, nose dragging planes to some little cement filled tire at the airport. Leave your opinion on tying Otters at the dock to those of us who have been there.

Perhaps in your limitless wisdom you have failed to hear what many wise pilots without concrete hangars do in the hurricane belt in the southeast when the big one arrives? THEY FLY their little airplanes to ANOTHER state for safety! But alas, that would be too much of thinking outside the box ( or state) for you now wouldn't it LOL

"State"? Who do you think you are? Get your Trump ass out of here. You're one of those kiddie nose dragging chumps he was talking about. Leave this discussion to Canadians, please.

[goingnowherefast]

Go tie your little kiddie, nose dragging planes to some little cement filled tire at the airport. Leave your opinion on tying Otters at the dock to those of us who have been there.

Perhaps in your limitless wisdom you have failed to hear what many wise pilots without concrete hangars do in the hurricane belt in the southeast when the big one arrives? THEY FLY their little airplanes to ANOTHER state for safety! But alas, that would be too much of thinking outside the box ( or state) for you now wouldn't it LOL

That has got to be the dumbest idea I've ever heard. Everybody, did you hear? It's thunder storm season (aka, summer) in Canada. Better fly all the float planes out of the country until fall!

[J31]

And it descends into another shit show with people shooting their mouths off........

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