mbav8r wrote:First off, I don't think I'm superior to anyone but I feel perhaps I'm more principled than some. Secondly, I could argue when I joined Jazz, it was the highest paid, best working conditions of any regional airline in North America, perhaps anywhere and despite the new contract forced on us it's still a great place to be.
For what it's worth Atphat, I would not nor would I have in the past, vote for any contract that was created to take work from you
PS, this whole feed the family thing is a lame excuse, I made more money driving a truck than the jobs on offer, so I kept driving the truck until a better offer came, eventually it did.
Like I said in my previous post, it's a losing battle and I wish those companies a lack of pilots!
So you have more principles....but only to a point. Like as long as you have the luxury of making more doing something else, or as long as you can rationalize staying at Jazz because it had the "highest paid, best working conditions" when you you started, it's still a "great place to be", and the new contract was "forced on us". Then it's ok to keep the job. Got it.
Pretty selective - sounds more like self-righteous then principled. Keeping a non-aviation job when it pays better than the flying jobs "beneath you" isn't exactly an example of sacrifice, is it? And does NOT reflect the circumstances of everyone out there looking for work. Incidentally I drove truck to pay for my own flying career, so I'm not unfamiliar with that path either - just like aviation, it isn't all easy money as you try and imply it is.
The thing is, blaming individuals only makes one bitter. You can't take economics personally, it's like arguing with the wind. You say you understand only a true supply glut will change things, yet you also blame pilots for not creating their own demand. How do industries with artificially-created demand usually turn out? That's assuming your premise that pilots can materially influence (i.e. distort) the wage market is correct, which I doubt. Certainly not as individuals. Perhaps in the short term, unions can demand more than market. But in the end economics determines sustainability. And thus contracts get "forced" on you.
I'm curious, would you come back and take a job at Flair or Sky Regional if you were out of work?
Of course. In a heartbeat. And be thankful for the opportunity. As it happens at present I have a job and career possibilities that offer a great deal better, but if that were to change I would adapt along with it, do the best I could, and not blame anyone else. I'm not foolish enough to sit there believing that my refusing a job is going to help raise wages.
confusedalot wrote:I have just learned that I am of low intelligence. Which means I am inferior. Which means that writing skills are the de facto measuring stick of superiority. And therefore ability.
Oh, the politically correct canadian way.
Better to know now than never.
Oh don't be such a drama queen.
I never said being poor at communication means someone is stupid. But it can make them sound like they are. Which seems a shame if they are in fact quite intelligent. How many resumes get tossed because a perfectly capable pilot comes across as an illiterate 12 year old? How many valid opinions are rejected because the person holding them lacks the ability to express them?
My only point was that it surprises me that in an increasingly competitive world many seem to be actually celebrating textspeak and poor grammar and spelling and so on as their preferred method of communicating, even in professional settings.
whatevs lolz
I’m still waiting for my white male privilege membership card. Must have gotten lost in the mail.