Is pay not as bad as people make it seem?

[All DAY EVERY DAY]

A few WDOs a month and you can do 50K. Do 3-4 dayers and make loads of per diems.

[Pt6-42]

A few WDOs a month and you can do 50K. Do 3-4 dayers and make loads of per diems.

What is this overtime thing you speak of? I still am in 703 world and I work 24 days in 31...

[Black_Tusk]

A few WDOs a month and you can do 50K. Do 3-4 dayers and make loads of per diems.

What is this overtime thing you speak of? I still am in 703 world and I work 24 days in 31...

If you the same amount of days at Jazz as you do in 703 right now you'd make a killing. Or you can just work the 15-18 days and have a life. I prefer the latter. Money is not the end all.

[glass1/2full]

no BS this is what the pay is and you figure out if it works for you or not..
everyone's needs are different but these numbers are as accurate as of this month

18 months fo

payed on the 25th and 10th of every month. no over time straight pay
25th $ 1047
10th $ 1155.

based on the blocking average

now if you want to add per diems or calculate it
block holders average 3 or 4 day pairings with 12 to 14 days off a month around 1200 a month
reserve where you are flying less than a block holder around 700 a month.

If you want over time, its there, if you happen to have min days off a month (ie 12 days) and you are ok working into your min days off its available, some do and others do not do any overtime.
you can easily do 2 4 or even 6 days overtime if you want if you don't exceed fatigue units and or days off for cars. crew sched wont give you overtime if you will end up breaking any of the above.

upgrades in yyz are around the 16 months mark but as some have mentioned some of the senior FO's will slide across at some point, when that happens the upgrades are going to be a little longer than 16 months. it also depends on how many are going to AC and when.

Jazz will work for some, and will not work for others, get accurate numbers and compare the whole package, then make your decisions based on that.


be safe and stay classy.

[Black_Tusk]

no BS this is what the pay is and you figure out if it works for you or not..
everyone's needs are different but these numbers are as accurate as of this month

18 months fo

payed on the 25th and 10th of every month. no over time straight pay
25th $ 1047
10th $ 1155.

based on the blocking average

now if you want to add per diems or calculate it
block holders average 3 or 4 day pairings with 12 to 14 days off a month around 1200 a month
reserve where you are flying less than a block holder around 700 a month.

If you want over time, its there, if you happen to have min days off a month (ie 12 days) and you are ok working into your min days off its available, some do and others do not do any overtime.
you can easily do 2 4 or even 6 days overtime if you want if you don't exceed fatigue units and or days off for cars. crew sched wont give you overtime if you will end up breaking any of the above.

upgrades in yyz are around the 16 months mark but as some have mentioned some of the senior FO's will slide across at some point, when that happens the upgrades are going to be a little longer than 16 months. it also depends on how many are going to AC and when.

Jazz will work for some, and will not work for others, get accurate numbers and compare the whole package, then make your decisions based on that.


be safe and stay classy.

So it's a fair comparison make sure to mention what base and type you fly. As it makes a significant difference on how many days off you might get which in turn does effect your ability to work WDO's and the per diems.

[lock15]

A few WDOs a month and you can do 50K. Do 3-4 dayers and make loads of per diems.

What is this overtime thing you speak of? I still am in 703 world and I work 24 days in 31...

There are 2 Ways to earn overtime. WDO's, and going over 85 hours in a monthly block.

WDO's are when you Work on your scheduled Day Off. If you are off, Crew Scheduling can call you and offer you some flying to fill in some holes. It is up to you whether you want to accept or not, or even if you want to pick up the phone at all. If you accept, whatever the credit hours are for the flying you've accepted is considerd overtime. It is considered overtime no matter how many hours you've currently flown on your monthly block. For example, let's say after your second pairing of the month you've flown 20 hours and on your next day off you are called and accept a WDO, any time worked on that WDO is overtime. The overtime rate is time and a half.

Any time flown exceeding 85 hours in a block, goes in to a "time bank". What this means is the overtime is not automatically paid out. It accumulates in this bank and can be paid out as you wish. You can request to get all of it paid out or an amount of your choosing. This amount gets paid out on the 10th of the following month. However, if you do a WDO, they will ask if you want it paid out or added to your bank.

This time bank has a Cap of 40 hours, so anytime it goes over the 40 cap, it is automatically paid out.