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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:29 pm 
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Looks like the pants were designed by the Hutterites. No back pocket because the back pocket is where the devil grabs you to pull you into hell.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:14 am 
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I find it fits really nicely, although I am not a big lover of the fake back pockets. I'm 5'8" slim build......I can see it being a bit awkward for the "big boned" guys. :lol:


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 10:11 am 
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Khakis and a golf shirt? Buddy go work at Best Buy. I'm surprised for the suit hate. I like the tradition and take a lot of pride in the uniform. You guys want to wear golf shirts and probably carry a backpack around because it's comfortable. SMDH


What's wrong with being comfortable at work? I already don't wear the company supplied shirts because they suck. If I'm in it all day, I want to be comfortable and look professional. The supplied uniform items do not do that without extreme modifications. I'm not talking khakis and a golf shit.. don't know where you got that from.

Enough about the "history and pride of the uniform." It's a job... and people want to be comfortable while at work. Times are changing.. I can count on one hand the amount of under 40's that I see wear the tunic on a regular basis. Heck even the older guys leave it at home. If they would have done a true modernization of the uniform like they said they were, we'd have a bomber jacket as an option, a two button single breasted jacket and the hat would be gone.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 10:12 am 
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I find it fits really nicely, although I am not a big lover of the fake back pockets. I'm 5'8" slim build......I can see it being a bit awkward for the "big boned" guys. :lol:


It seems like the uni was made for someone of your build. Which is great for you, just sucks for some of us... :(



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Dockjock wrote:
Khakis and a golf shirt? Buddy go work at Best Buy. I'm surprised for the suit hate. I like the tradition and take a lot of pride in the uniform. You guys want to wear golf shirts and probably carry a backpack around because it's comfortable. SMDH



"Buddy" you need to get a life. It is just flying a bus around the sky. Some responsibility to do it right and be safe but there is nothing in this job requiring a suit. I have been flying for 33 years. Never needed a suit and tie to make me "professional" enough to do the job. It looks terrible, uncomfortable as shit. I would like to be comfy at work. I can be way more professional that way. I have to wear it to cause the company says so. Don't have to like it.

Buddy you wanna wear a suit go work at a law firm.



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 5:39 pm 
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How many airlines all over the world are there that do not have their crews wear a uniform?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 5:55 pm 
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How many airlines all over the world are there that do not have their crews wear a uniform?



Don't really care how many. Like I said above Cat, 70 years of tradition unencumbered by progress.



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70 years of tradition unencumbered by progress.


What would you consider progress?


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Skyhunter super WOKE on the need to wear a suit to fly an airliner! Really opened my eyes. Need to be "comfy" like when you get home from 3rd grade and change into your play clothes. Holy hell. It's pants and a shirt and tie, and jacket. "BOMBER JACKET" what are you, 8 years old? Those look ridiculous on airline crews. Cat could pull one off in his PBY, not you in an airbus.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 6:49 am 
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No back pockets in the pants and no outside pockets in the tunic. It's like the clothes actors wear on stage, it's for looks not function. Our uniform has become a costume


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 7:00 am 
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I'm pretty sure bomberjackets were designed for bomber crews. Which airforce has 8 year doing that? If you don't get that what your wearing for 10-15 hours a days at work needs to be comfortable then you need to do a little research into fatigue.


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No back pockets in the pants and no outside pockets in the tunic. It's like the clothes actors wear on stage, it's for looks not function. Our uniform has become a costume


There are outside pockets on the tunic. Like any other blazer or suit jacket, you will have to cut the thread that closes the pocket. Also, don't forget to cut the thread that's holding the back vents closed. Sheesh! Can't believe I'm giving a lesson on suit jackets to a grown up. :roll:

Also, this is a major airline not bush company. Dress like a professional. If you want to be treated like a bus driver then go ahead and dress like one. I thought we were better than this. Bus driver...Sheesh. You're in the wrong part of the industry.


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Sage wrote:
av8ts wrote:
No back pockets in the pants and no outside pockets in the tunic. It's like the clothes actors wear on stage, it's for looks not function. Our uniform has become a costume


There are outside pockets on the tunic. Like any other blazer or suit jacket, you will have to cut the thread that closes the pocket. Also, don't forget to cut the thread that's holding the back vents closed. Sheesh! Can't believe I'm giving a lesson on suit jackets to a grown up. :roll:

Also, this is a major airline not bush company. Dress like a professional. If you want to be treated like a bus driver then go ahead and dress like one. I thought we were better than this. Bus driver...Sheesh. You're in the wrong part of the industry.



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Maybe I'm a tad crusty after a 3 day, but IMHO if you all take pride in the professional image that the uniform contributes to, shave your face before you head out the door......


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That's it, I'm showing up to work in yoga pants, a wife beater and an AC pin. And screw being clean cut, mullets all the way.


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Maybe I'm a tad crusty after a 3 day, but IMHO if you all take pride in the professional image that the uniform contributes to, shave your face before you head out the door......


I have a neatly combed beard that I've had nothing but complements with, my neck is shaved and it's tidy. What's wrong with that?



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Maybe I'm a tad crusty after a 3 day, but IMHO if you all take pride in the professional image that the uniform contributes to, shave your face before you head out the door......


I have a neatly combed beard that I've had nothing but complements with, my neck is shaved and it's tidy. What's wrong with that?


Nothing. Airlines all over the world have allowed beards for years. It's about time Canada caught up.

RATO is likely just old fashioned and doesn't like change.

Everyone needs to remember.. the only reason we wear what we wear is thanks to airlines in the early/mid 1900's wanting their pilots to resemble naval officers.



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Anyone tried the hat ? your thoughts?


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Hearing lots of complaints about the Russian general hats. However my new hat is just a little bigger than my old one. Very little difference.


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Hearing lots of complaints about the Russian general hats. However my new hat is just a little bigger than my old one. Very little difference.


Do you get the full jackets worth of medals as well? Or, is that only with the larger North Korean hat package?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 4:20 pm 
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av8ts wrote:
Hearing lots of complaints about the Russian general hats. However my new hat is just a little bigger than my old one. Very little difference.


I find it's quite big.. Looks pretty silly looking in the mirror at myself. The older hats are better IMO, and I really think they should have just redone the same hats in black.

But.. I get paid to wear it so I'll wear it. Doesn't mean I have to like it.



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regardless of the size, i happen to find the made in china velvet ribbon on the forehead very uncomfortable compared to the super soft i had on my made in canada hat from the previous uniform.
what do you think about the velvet ?



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 4:47 pm 
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regardless of the size, i happen to find the made in china velvet ribbon on the forehead very uncomfortable compared to the super soft i had on my made in canada hat from the previous uniform.
what do you think about the velvet ?


It's funny you say that... My first hat I got from the company when I started was made in China. And I had exactly the same problem you describe. I even got a minor rash on my forehead. I ordered another hat, the second came and had a sticker that said "Union made in Canada." Not only was the velvet better, and no longer an issue.. the hat was actually straight. The Chinese one never fit all that well.

Am I the only one that thinks we should be supporting Canadian companies vs. China, since you know "Air Canada" and all?



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comparing the 2 hats, it's day and night on every single point!


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Enough people have complained.. There is apparently a 'trimmer styled' hat coming. I've received mine (I have a giant dome) and it is smaller in height than the previous uniforms hat and same diameter. Smaller emblem and scrambled eggs too. Much improved.

It says 'union made in canada' on the inside too.

These pants however...



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