Also have you looked north? I came back up north after finishing the school for AME and I was on the floor turning wrenches within a week of our graduation ceremony.
Have you ever found a job that makes you dedicated to work before you decided to become a ame?
Have you been living off the bank of Ma &pa
You have the intelligences to pass a AME course
If you don't mind traveling and accept that the only thing constant in aviation is change!
then you might be able to land a job
I left ame college in Dawson creek in 1992 with no resumes forwarded to any company and the career counsellors said what are you doing wrong nobody does this
Two days later i was working in Yellowknife and have had a outstanding carreer in aviation and When i want to work i work
Go North Young Man this saying is Gold no seek no find, lotteries are to far fetched
Get off your ass Kid you may become a Engineer
Keep trying, you'll find something.
My guess would be that the experienced people are going with full time gigs, bypassing the agencies and dealing directly with the AMOs or leaving the industry altogether. It’s simply a matter of financial survival. Most of the contract rates and arrangements I've seen lately weren't very attractive.planemikey wrote:Where are all the contract ame's M1/ m2/ structures these days ??/ Have oodles of work with no one available . Apprentices too!! Contact Vic at Contract Aero !250-473-7475
As for the hundreds of apprentices that all the schools are churning out each year now; it would be interesting to see the full picture of where they all end up in the year or two following graduation. I doubt many of them find their first job through a contract agency. (I imagine you’re talking about apprentices with some experience, though.)
planemikey wrote:Where are all the contract ame's M1/ m2/ structures these days ??/ Have oodles of work with no one available . Apprentices too!! Contact Vic at Contract Aero !250-473-7475
I agree with Gyvair's comments.
Most of the good experienced guys who were around a few years ago have disappeared, and it can be attributed to the continuing low wage offerings and crazy shifts.
Honestly Mike, $38 an hour is garbage for a contract/experienced AME's that you and Vic are continually looking for. Tell your customer's to cough up, but I sense it may be becoming too late.
I've seen a $50 an hour gig come up repeatedly for eastern canada for Dash-8 guys, but it looks like no ones too interested either. Wage seems allright, so is there a hidden detail turning guys off, or just nobody wanting to go to northern quebec for night tours?
For me personally, I haven't used an agency in over 15 years and all I do is contract work.
Bingo.What I have seen is AMOs pitting you head hunters against each other and driving down their cost to the point that why would they employ full time when it is cheaper to use contract labour. Not to mention working us like slaves, who actually wants to work 50 60 70 hr weeks. I am better off to stay at home and drive a truck
Several times I've seen those kind of hours promoted in agency ad's. I think the expectation is general horniness to do nothing but wrench on airplanes.
The sad reality is, at the wages currently offered, it's what a guy needs to do to make it count, particularly if perdiums, transportation, accommodation are not inclusive. This is not singling out your agency, but all of them. You all offer the same thing.
Its hilarious to see a company post on here looking for everything, a few weeks pass, suddenly 3-4 agencies post in succession looking for the same and offering the same.
IMO, $50 with the above included, is minimum what a experienced contractor should be getting in this day and age, with time and a half after 10 hrs up to 12. "working" after 12 hours in my experiences has shown negligible value in quality of work performed, actually past 10 if graveyard.
Otherwise it seems a classic case of getting what you pay for.
Not to mention working us like slaves, who actually wants to work 50 60 70 hr weeks
This is no bullshit. I've heard it spoken directly from a manager's mouth.
Unfortunately, there were a few fellow contractors who took and take pride in that.
There's always a phuking hero(s) in the bunch.
.. believe me .. u want a job. Start at the southmost hanger & work your way north to the northmost hanger. Knock on every door. Have your tools in your car, pair of workboots, & a can-do attitude in your pocket. You will be employed before you get to the last hanger. Its just a matter of being at the right place at the right time. Get to know the head mechanic personally - shake his hand & look him straight in the eye. Small aviation companies dont have time to waste interviewing people - they want somebody now that looks semi-intelligent & capable. & for Gods sake .. dont let the first question be .. How much u pay ? ...
Apply to flight training units (flight college, flight school, flight training centre) affiliated Approved Maintenance Organization (AMO)
1.High demand for maintenance + DEEP POCKETS
2.High amount of flight hours flown per year
3.High Potential for flight defects
4.Short inspection cycle turnarounds
5.Many airplanes = many potential snags.
-With all the reasons I listed above allow the apprentice to get that logbook filled quickly.
-I believe these AMOs are the best place to get a well rounded M1 Industry experience as an Apprentice AME.
-The quicker a apprentice becomes an AME (M1 or M2 or Both) the quicker they can move on to what work they desire. Get a ticket then aim for your dream job.
-Every apprentice will have to "put in their time" in the industry... Sweeping floors, mowing the lawns, scrubbing toilets, running to town, Days upon Days of not wrenching.... BEEN THERE!!----- whatever your doing keep your chin up and have a good attitude it WILL pay off. If the "putting in time" phase persists for too long you may need to find a better AMO. If that is the case DO NOT BURN BRIDGES!Move on with a couple good typed references and a good reputation to set you up for the next job.
-In my M1 experience Flight school was were I was able to lock down my M1 License after 5 years of apprenticing, some people take less time but remember each apprentice will have something unique to offer because that individual brings custom talents to each maintenance organization.
Hope this helps!
let me know your thoughts!