Lack of Crew?
Moderators: sky's the limit, sepia, Sulako, lilfssister, North Shore, I WAS Birddog
Lack of Crew?
What's going on at porter?
- Attachments
-
- IMG_2915.PNG (287.61 KiB) Viewed 11291 times
-
- Rank 2
- Posts: 58
- Joined: Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:40 pm
Re: Lack of Crew?
Not really. He blames everyone else. Looks like yesterday there was 9 cancelled flights and almost every flight was delayed significantly. There was no weather issues that I saw. Mechanical? I'm sure porter has some spare aircraft around? So what's left, Lack of pilots?
Thanks for the article. Looks like he's dangling the jet carrot. Something that's never going to happen out of ytz.
Thanks for the article. Looks like he's dangling the jet carrot. Something that's never going to happen out of ytz.
-
- Rank 7
- Posts: 693
- Joined: Sun Oct 09, 2016 8:57 am
Re: Lack of Crew?
They need to hire a media relations rep.
Did a Deluce just admit there is a worldwide pilot shortage? Ok Bob when do the pay increases start?
Did a Deluce just admit there is a worldwide pilot shortage? Ok Bob when do the pay increases start?
Re: Lack of Crew?
I have been told by a FO that any additional flying pilots do will be paid at X3. So something is happening!
-
- Rank 2
- Posts: 93
- Joined: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:46 pm
Re: Lack of Crew?
Why haven't regionals like Porter (or any of the express carriers for that matter) advertised for DEC's? I would think a DEC advertisement would attract pilots with interest...those not willing to come in from the right seat and take a pay cut.
-
- Rank 8
- Posts: 844
- Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:50 pm
Re: Lack of Crew?
DEC would never happen at Jazz being under ALPA. Even now, there is no shortage of qualified FO's eligible for upgrade.
-
- Rank (9)
- Posts: 1982
- Joined: Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:24 am
-
- Rank 2
- Posts: 57
- Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:31 pm
Re: Lack of Crew?
What kind of pilots is Porter attracting these days? Encore, Jazz, Sky, and even GGN have some form of flow to another carrier. Is Porter really the kind of place that anyone can stay at long term?
-
- Rank 0
- Posts: 5
- Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:10 pm
Re: Lack of Crew?
Given your post history, it looks like you were the kind of pilot that was attracted. Did you ever hear back?Ruddervator wrote:What kind of pilots is Porter attracting these days? Encore, Jazz, Sky, and even GGN have some form of flow to another carrier. Is Porter really the kind of place that anyone can stay at long term?
Re: Lack of Crew?
To the original post,
Porter has been short Captains for the summer, often resulting in consolidating and/or cancelling flights. Bob did mention that weather across the northeast this summer has been odd to say the least. Pop-up TCU's have caused lengthy delays in EWR. BOS has construction earlier which exacerbated the problem. Lastly terminal construction at YTZ has resulted in lengthy waits for gates.
As for paying triple time, yes it is occurring, but it's a short term measure. Crews are being offered triple their hourly rate to come in work on their days off and vacation days only.
Porter management is having a sit down with its pilots next week to discuss their Pilot Retention Package. Things are happening, and it'll be interesting what comes out of that meeting.
Porter has been short Captains for the summer, often resulting in consolidating and/or cancelling flights. Bob did mention that weather across the northeast this summer has been odd to say the least. Pop-up TCU's have caused lengthy delays in EWR. BOS has construction earlier which exacerbated the problem. Lastly terminal construction at YTZ has resulted in lengthy waits for gates.
As for paying triple time, yes it is occurring, but it's a short term measure. Crews are being offered triple their hourly rate to come in work on their days off and vacation days only.
Porter management is having a sit down with its pilots next week to discuss their Pilot Retention Package. Things are happening, and it'll be interesting what comes out of that meeting.
"A good traveller has no fixed plan and is not intent on arriving." -Lao Tzu
Re: Lack of Crew?
Perhaps not right away, but eventually AC will empty the cockpits of tier 2 carriers where there is a strategic benefit to significantly affect operational capability and commercial integrity. There is little that Porter can do to protect itself if it is on the AC radar screen.
Deluce et al would be wise to look at what the future holds and see if now is the time to cash in - at a realistic price, not fantasy.
Deluce et al would be wise to look at what the future holds and see if now is the time to cash in - at a realistic price, not fantasy.
Re: Lack of Crew?
Apparently Mr. Deluce has a different idea ...rudder wrote:
Deluce et al would be wise to look at what the future holds and see if now is the time to cash in - at a realistic price, not fantasy.
http://www.bnn.ca/video/porter-ceo-we-r ... ut~1185831
Re: Lack of Crew?
Trying to create an equivalency between Porter pilots going to AC and AC pilots going to Emirates/Singapore? Perhaps 80% of Porter pilots would like to leave Porter for AC but 0.08% of AC pilots want to leave AC for Emirates.
What a moronic statement (amongst several others).
Just keep paying triple time Bob. Everything will be OK.
What a moronic statement (amongst several others).
Just keep paying triple time Bob. Everything will be OK.
Re: Lack of Crew?
I didn't know Porter had a high turnover. Thought their pilots were happy there.
Re: Lack of Crew?
Thanks for the response grey wolf. I've started asking around. Looks like most companies are starting to feel the pinch.
Rudder I've been saying the same thing. If AC wanted to shut down or cripple another company fast all they'd have to do is hire a bunch of their pilots. If AC filled two months of courses with our pilots we'd be in trouble.
Great time to learn to fly!
Rudder I've been saying the same thing. If AC wanted to shut down or cripple another company fast all they'd have to do is hire a bunch of their pilots. If AC filled two months of courses with our pilots we'd be in trouble.
Great time to learn to fly!
-
- Rank 7
- Posts: 693
- Joined: Sun Oct 09, 2016 8:57 am
Re: Lack of Crew?
Porter has been on the offensive sending out messages on LinkedIn. I have not seen any Canadian airline try to recruit from LinkedIn yet by direct message, it's a first.
Re: Lack of Crew?
Didn't Air Georgian try the Linkedin recruitment tactic a year or so ago ?