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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:47 am 
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Any insiders know when AC is going to have an open posting?


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iwant2flyifr wrote:
Any insiders know when AC is going to have an open posting?


I don't think anyone knows. But they have not finished calling and interviewing people from their last posting.



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:07 pm 
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iwant2flyifr wrote:
Any insiders know when AC is going to have an open posting?


30 pilots every month starting mid September. They haven't reopened the position online yet. It's my assumption that hiring at those numbers will deplete the PML in fairly short order. I would expect hiring of off the street candidates to restart sometime this fall.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:11 pm 
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Are these PML v2.0 you imagine will be depleted with this rush of 30/month?


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:42 pm 
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Hopefully they get through the pool soon.....hiring can't be that robust if it takes that much time to open the posting again or the pml is filling the seats. Most ots guys can't go from 80 to 100k to 40 in hopes of pml flow .... it's great for the regionals but ac and now wj missing out on an entire slice of Canadian experience


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The answer is today, September 10th. Depends on how much of this you believe, sounds like lots of opportunities.

From the Pilot Career Center Website: link
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Minimum 2000 hours. Expecting to hire hundreds of pilots in 2017.

Airline hires pilots into mainline or rouge depending upon needs.

* Each new hire course consists of 20 new pilots.

* One class of new hires each month, indefinitely.



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 7:49 pm 
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Noticed that one too, although there isn't an official job posting on the Air Canada website.

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:prayer: hopefully it is true, let see tomorrow if the website update !


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nothing yet!


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Just passed an agreement allowing Rouge growth and recapturing regional flying. Expect hiring to pick-up, probably 25-30 a month.

New hires now get a much better pension, not sure what the new working condition will be like. 16 day a month narrow body protection still there.

Good luck.



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RVR6000 wrote:
Just passed an agreement allowing Rouge growth and recapturing regional flying. Expect hiring to pick-up, probably 25-30 a month.


The hiring was coming anyway.

This agreement will allow them to hire fewer pilots.



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altiplano wrote:
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Just passed an agreement allowing Rouge growth and recapturing regional flying. Expect hiring to pick-up, probably 25-30 a month.


The hiring was coming anyway.

This agreement will allow them to hire fewer pilots.



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Latest rumour I heard, from a source that I consider reliable, is a course of 30, every 3 weeks, indefinitely

With retirements and big growth at mainline & Rouge, it is going to be getting pretty crazy, in my opinion

Glass half full, folks



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Latest rumour I heard, from a source that I consider reliable, is a course of 30, every 3 weeks, indefinitely



How many of those do you suppose will come from the express carriers. Looking at the issues right now facing Jazz/GGN/SKY the PML is just not sustainable. All three are already cancelling flights because of lack of crew, can they continue to keep the PML a realistic option to staff big red, while sacrificing their regional flying?



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Would seem to me that if rouge is taking more Regional flying, that it would solve the lack of crewing at express therefore the PML should work betteR. No?

Sky regional isn't cancelling flights ? We are overstaffed



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Sky regional isn't cancelling flights ? We are overstaffed



Then I assume the posting on PCC from two days ago would be to replenish the pool?



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iflyroads wrote:
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Sky regional isn't cancelling flights ? We are overstaffed



Then I assume the posting on PCC from two days ago would be to replenish the pool?


Yes. And anyone interviewing right now is being told it's for a pool.

I have also seen the email that is sent out to people inviting them for an interview, and it says "in anticipation of expanding the company's existing 175 fleet" in it. Apparently all interview emails don't have that line either.

The pool is probably for this anticipated expansion.



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GATRKGA wrote:
iflyroads wrote:
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Sky regional isn't cancelling flights ? We are overstaffed



Then I assume the posting on PCC from two days ago would be to replenish the pool?


Yes. And anyone interviewing right now is being told it's for a pool.

I have also seen the email that is sent out to people inviting them for an interview, and it says "in anticipation of expanding the company's existing 175 fleet" in it. Apparently all interview emails don't have that line either.

The pool is probably for this anticipated expansion.



Thank you for the insight :)



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Exactly, people see some post and assume it must be due to shortage. They hear a rumour and it must be lack of crew for the cancel. Proof


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regardless still no new job posting on the ac site


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This seems rather disorganized on the part of AC. Advertise lots of hiring, but no method to apply.


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iflyroads wrote:
GATRKGA wrote:
iflyroads wrote:


Then I assume the posting on PCC from two days ago would be to replenish the pool?


Yes. And anyone interviewing right now is being told it's for a pool.

I have also seen the email that is sent out to people inviting them for an interview, and it says "in anticipation of expanding the company's existing 175 fleet" in it. Apparently all interview emails don't have that line either.

The pool is probably for this anticipated expansion.



Thank you for the insight :)


And now i'm hearing communication that we may not be expanding the fleet at all due ACPA vote. Lol ...

But I do understand we are losing 4 people to AC per class indefinitely; which is probably why there's a hiring pool. There's about 6 in the upgrade program; otherwise there seems to be no upgrades going on at the moment. Even the upgrades seem to be on hold until we get leaner. I recently flew with a guy who is in the upgrade program, great guy, was waiting on his in person interview. Has been with the company for 18 months. No degree.

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regardless still no new job posting on the ac site


Between Jazz and SR there's 10 in the Oct 02 class that I know of. 4 from SR. I venture to guess a few from GGN and EVAS? So I think AC is holding its up to 80% pretty darn close. If you go to express you have to understand that there will be waves when AC takes express and when it doesn't. It's in AC's best interest to take express pilots. Already in the system, already operating AC routes, already dealing with the mountain of idiosyncrasies that is the AC operation. They will make a seamless transition to AC as opposed to someone needing to learn it from scratch. Not saying just cause you're not express you're not good, it just is more of a natural pick for AC and unless they want to kill off express, it's in their best interest to keep express lean with light at the end of the tunnel clear and bright. Going forward, I am of the opinion the OTS hire link will probably not open soon, and if it does; will not be the source of many new hires. OTS still remains highly competitive. There's enough applicants from last posting from all OTS/Military. Don't let the 2 or 3 courses of OTS be any indication to things going forward. Neither should the 60 Encore/Wj medicals at AC. It was purely reactive to the state of summer flying at express. Many people with medicals done and 1+ year later have to go in for subsequent medicals before offered a spot.

Probably the only company where you get fingered twice to get hired :lol:



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thats fine but then why the post of PCC I am assuming that instruction came from AC?


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:27 am 
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So over on the pcc site ac is hiring according to them but no job ad.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:44 am 
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I don't see any recent job ad for Air Canada on PCC. Which one are you referring to?


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