When is AC hiring again?
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Re: When is AC hiring again?
This seems rather disorganized on the part of AC. Advertise lots of hiring, but no method to apply.
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And now i'm hearing communication that we may not be expanding the fleet at all due ACPA vote. Lol ...iflyroads wrote:GATRKGA wrote:Yes. And anyone interviewing right now is being told it's for a pool.iflyroads wrote:
Then I assume the posting on PCC from two days ago would be to replenish the pool?
I have also seen the email that is sent out to people inviting them for an interview, and it says "in anticipation of expanding the company's existing 175 fleet" in it. Apparently all interview emails don't have that line either.
The pool is probably for this anticipated expansion.
Thank you for the insight
But I do understand we are losing 4 people to AC per class indefinitely; which is probably why there's a hiring pool. There's about 6 in the upgrade program; otherwise there seems to be no upgrades going on at the moment. Even the upgrades seem to be on hold until we get leaner. I recently flew with a guy who is in the upgrade program, great guy, was waiting on his in person interview. Has been with the company for 18 months. No degree.
Between Jazz and SR there's 10 in the Oct 02 class that I know of. 4 from SR. I venture to guess a few from GGN and EVAS? So I think AC is holding its up to 80% pretty darn close. If you go to express you have to understand that there will be waves when AC takes express and when it doesn't. It's in AC's best interest to take express pilots. Already in the system, already operating AC routes, already dealing with the mountain of idiosyncrasies that is the AC operation. They will make a seamless transition to AC as opposed to someone needing to learn it from scratch. Not saying just cause you're not express you're not good, it just is more of a natural pick for AC and unless they want to kill off express, it's in their best interest to keep express lean with light at the end of the tunnel clear and bright. Going forward, I am of the opinion the OTS hire link will probably not open soon, and if it does; will not be the source of many new hires. OTS still remains highly competitive. There's enough applicants from last posting from all OTS/Military. Don't let the 2 or 3 courses of OTS be any indication to things going forward. Neither should the 60 Encore/Wj medicals at AC. It was purely reactive to the state of summer flying at express. Many people with medicals done and 1+ year later have to go in for subsequent medicals before offered a spot.CAL wrote:regardless still no new job posting on the ac site
Probably the only company where you get fingered twice to get hired
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thats fine but then why the post of PCC I am assuming that instruction came from AC?
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So over on the pcc site ac is hiring according to them but no job ad.
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I don't see any recent job ad for Air Canada on PCC. Which one are you referring to?
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Oh that's not a job posting. It's just Air Canada's profile page.
A job posting is like:
https://www.pilotcareercentre.com/Pilot ... viation-LP
A job posting is like:
https://www.pilotcareercentre.com/Pilot ... viation-LP
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Well thats what I was thinking but a couple weeks ago another posted posted that he thought ac was hiring again also...this is the second company update in a couple weeks for AC that following the news update states hiring.
I guess the confusion is they are technically hiring just they dont have a job posting open so OTS cant apply.
I guess the confusion is they are technically hiring just they dont have a job posting open so OTS cant apply.
Re: When is AC hiring again?
Yes they are definitely "hiring". That part is not wrong. They just aren't taking applications right now from the general public.
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Re: When is AC hiring again?
Do you have any cues when AC will hire from now? I was wondering if they are filling up all their groundschool?
I was told that you could be hired by Air Canada straight out from a King Air, is that true? In this case, this would be amazing!
Safe and happy flights to all!
I was told that you could be hired by Air Canada straight out from a King Air, is that true? In this case, this would be amazing!
Safe and happy flights to all!
Re: When is AC hiring again?
Air Canada is actively hiring right now.
There is no problem filling the courses.
Air Canada has hired out of 703/704 turboprops before, and probably will again in the future, but current new hires are all mostly experienced on larger aircraft... mostly 705 jet, some 705 turboprop, some military, some corporate...
There is no problem filling the courses.
Air Canada has hired out of 703/704 turboprops before, and probably will again in the future, but current new hires are all mostly experienced on larger aircraft... mostly 705 jet, some 705 turboprop, some military, some corporate...
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Thank you Altiplano for sharing. Safe flights to you.altiplano wrote:Air Canada is actively hiring right now.
There is no problem filling the courses.
Air Canada has hired out of 703/704 turboprops before, and probably will again in the future, but current new hires are all mostly experienced on larger aircraft... mostly 705 jet, some 705 turboprop, some military, some corporate...
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I guess they might soon do away with the uni requirement as well ... last I heard jazz has been hiring ppl without atpls as well.altiplano wrote:Air Canada is actively hiring right now.
There is no problem filling the courses.
Air Canada has hired out of 703/704 turboprops before, and probably will again in the future, but current new hires are all mostly experienced on larger aircraft... mostly 705 jet, some 705 turboprop, some military, some corporate...
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University isn't a hard requirement, but is highly desirable.
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Very nice altiplano! That's funny, when I started in Quebec, many persons in the industry told us to do a degree in something but many of us (students) of our generation (90's) were puzzled about that idea but I found that important, as a plan B. I am glad you say it is still desirable.altiplano wrote:University isn't a hard requirement, but is highly desirable.
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I suspect you mean actively hiring from PML & from the ones who applied during the 2016 Spring window?altiplano wrote:Air Canada is actively hiring right now.
There is no problem filling the courses.
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Because there is still no pilot jobs posted on AC's site.
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Maybe.
I'm sure they have lots of applications on file from the past, maybe they are working through those.
It used to take years of applying at AC to get hired for the most part... even now if you have just met the minimum to apply, then I wouldn't expect a call.
Anyway, the new bid shows in excess of 500 vacancies. Lots of hiring to come...
I'm sure they have lots of applications on file from the past, maybe they are working through those.
It used to take years of applying at AC to get hired for the most part... even now if you have just met the minimum to apply, then I wouldn't expect a call.
Anyway, the new bid shows in excess of 500 vacancies. Lots of hiring to come...
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Thanks altiplano. I got 5000+hrs and I'm an FO on the 737NG, bilingual with a degree. Hopefully all that will help. Do we need internal recommendations in order to get in AC, like Westjet does? I'm trying to compare benefits between AC and Westjet, trying to do what's best for my family. I'll look at other posts to try to compare. It looks like AC pilots are divided about the latest TA and the DC pension switch. I was hoping they'd go with Defined Benefits,, not MEPP, but that would have been too good to be true. That's for another post.
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From what I've heard and seen AC is the major in Canada where internal references will not help you so much.
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There is an internal reference program.
Pilots can recommend someone every few years or so... while it isn't a certainty, I believe it adds to your 'points' ie. all other things equal it might push you over the top...
A lot of us thought that we could stand up for a better pension for the post-FOS hires and had a good shot at even a DB pension through successive no concession interest arbitrations as was laid out in our 10 year deal... many in the union didn't see it that way and sold the TBP and related concessions hard...
Unfortunately many members took the nearsighted, overpriced improvement, or were gun-shy to arbitration, or generally just didn't have a critical review of what was in front of them and voted for it... so the DB in the future has sailed...TBP/MEPP/CWIPP does look reasonable though and is a gain for new hires - we just over paid for it... time to move on...
It's a good job. Lots of openings plus many retirements to come and varied opportunity to someone joining now.
Pilots can recommend someone every few years or so... while it isn't a certainty, I believe it adds to your 'points' ie. all other things equal it might push you over the top...
A lot of us thought that we could stand up for a better pension for the post-FOS hires and had a good shot at even a DB pension through successive no concession interest arbitrations as was laid out in our 10 year deal... many in the union didn't see it that way and sold the TBP and related concessions hard...
Unfortunately many members took the nearsighted, overpriced improvement, or were gun-shy to arbitration, or generally just didn't have a critical review of what was in front of them and voted for it... so the DB in the future has sailed...TBP/MEPP/CWIPP does look reasonable though and is a gain for new hires - we just over paid for it... time to move on...
It's a good job. Lots of openings plus many retirements to come and varied opportunity to someone joining now.