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Canadian Pilots in the USA

#1 Post by Canada340 » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:37 am

Well it seems that the predictions of American carriers hiring Canadian Pilots is starting to happen. Horizon had a few Canadians in its latest groundschool. Should Avcanada open a forum section labeled “US Carriers”?
Rumor has it JetBlue is planning the same thing. Can anyone elaborate?
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Re: Canadian Pilots in the USA

#2 Post by rudder » Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:11 am

If there are a Canadian passport holders in groundschool for US carriers, they already have legal status to work in the US and have US ATP certificates. Significant background checks are also required.

Under NAFTA, certain job descriptions are deemed portable and pre-approved. Commercial pilots are not on that list. That is not likely to change. The NAFTA treaty itself may cease to exist,

Seems the rumour mill keeps churning.
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Re: Canadian Pilots in the USA

#3 Post by Stinky » Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:23 am

JetBlue has multiple "gateway" programs for pilot hiring which includes abinitio and flow from Cape Air I believe.

Foreign pilot recruiting isn't one. They still receive thousands of applications every time the window opens.
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Re: Canadian Pilots in the USA

#4 Post by JBI » Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:45 am

At the moment, all US airlines require existing authorization to work in the US. There was a post on here previously that indicated the Canadians in the Horizon ground school already had the right to work in the US (i.e. dual citizenship, spouse who works in the US, etc.). Apparently a few folks on here emailed Horizon and they indicated that they are not sponsoring Visa applications.

It's definitely not out of the realm of possibility in the future. A few caveats though:

1- Right now (and it will change) the majors, jetBlue, Fedex, UPS & Southwest are having NO problem attracting candidates. It's only the regionals that are having challenges.

2- To be a Captain on a Part 121 aircraft (equivalent of 705 here in Canada), you have to have 1000 hours SIC Part 121 time. Canadian time doesn't matter, so even if you had 1000 hours on an RJ in Canada, they'd still need another 1000 hours as an FO in the US (there are a few limited ways that this time doesn't have to be 121 time, but it still needs to be in the US i.e. PIC on a fractional ownership jet).

3- To get the most info on what's happening in the US, Airline Pilot Forums is a pretty good resource.

4- All that being said, it's never a bad idea to get an FAA ATPL certificate. There is a conversion process. A separate FAA medical is necessary as well as a written test. The big difference is that in order to write the written exam, candidates are required to cockpit procedures course (CTP Course). Most regionals will hire someone without the ATPL and then pay for the CTP course. However, if you want to do it on your own, it's $3,000 - $5,000.

5- If you have questions about a specific airline, the recruiters are pretty eager to chat with pilots, even if you're not eligible, it's pretty good for the ego to feel wanted :wink:
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