Plane registered to Roy Halladay crashes in Gulf off Florida

[GyvAir]

2:28

Looks closer to 50 inches than 50 feet. Not exactly a runway smooth surface under them, either.

[tps8903]

Seems he had a cocktail of alcohol and drugs in his system according to the autopsy. The quantities are unknown (except the 10mg of alcohol). I'm sure it is a contributing factor.

[ahramin]

Seems he had a cocktail of alcohol and drugs in his system according to the autopsy. The quantities are unknown (except the 10mg of alcohol). I'm sure it is a contributing factor.

Source?

[rookiepilot]

Seems he had a cocktail of alcohol and drugs in his system according to the autopsy. The quantities are unknown (except the 10mg of alcohol). I'm sure it is a contributing factor.

Source?

https://globalnews.ca/news/3976546/roy- ... ane-crash/

[CpnCrunch]

0.01 is very low...that's one glass of wine 2 hours ago, and is way below the driving limit.

The Ambien is probably more likely to have been a factor. 50ng/mL increases the risk of a motor vehicle accident, and he had 72ng/Ml.

[MrWings]

0.01 is very low...that's one glass of wine 2 hours ago, and is way below the driving limit.

Yes. You are correct. But two hours since last drink is no where near the required 8 hour flying limit.

[photofly]

Steady, there. Nobody here knows whether he had one glass two hours ago or four glasses eight hours ago. “One glass two hours ago” was just an example of something that might have resulted in 0.01, not drawn from any knowledge of what he might have drunk or when.

[tps8903]

Regardless of amounts he had measurable amounts of impairing substances in his body. Because it is also poly-drug use it is very difficult to say exactly how impaired he was. The combination of drugs and alcohol at a minimum will be at least as impairing as the sum of their parts, but more often will have exponential effect on his faculties. Ambian (CNS depressant), alcohol (CNS depressant), Morphine (Metabolite of a Narcotic Analgesic) will compound the impairment.

I found that people who take these cocktails often take an amphetamine to mask the signs of impairment. Who knows if this is the case here.

Unfortunately alcohol is the only substance here that has a quantifiable correlation between BAC and impairment. So we may never know how impaired he was.

All of this makes me very sad. He was a hero of mine growing up in Toronto.

[SuperchargedRS]

Spoiler alert drugs/booze didn't kill the baseball player, his attitude and history of bad decisions killed him, he's been quoted many times as saying he likes flying like a "fighter pilot" low and fast, which is also exactly how icon markets their aircraft, and exactly what he was going when he crashed.

I'm sure icon will use the trace amount of drugs to point the finger away from them and how they market their product to be used, and no doubtfully how they conduct their inhouse training.


But yeah, didn't have jack diddly to do with drugs, had to do with how me liked to fly and how he was taught to fly.

[PilotDAR]

drugs/booze didn't kill the baseball player, his attitude and history of bad decisions killed him, he's been quoted many times as saying he likes flying like a "fighter pilot" low and fast, which is also exactly how icon markets their aircraft, and exactly what he was going when he crashed.

This.

[pelmet]

Regardless of amounts he had measurable amounts of impairing substances in his body.

The biggest impairing substance in his body was his brain(ie thought process).

[CpnCrunch]

Spoiler alert drugs/booze didn't kill the baseball player, his attitude and history of bad decisions killed him, he's been quoted many times as saying he likes flying like a "fighter pilot" low and fast, which is also exactly how icon markets their aircraft, and exactly what he was going when he crashed.

I'm sure icon will use the trace amount of drugs to point the finger away from them and how they market their product to be used, and no doubtfully how they conduct their inhouse training.


But yeah, didn't have jack diddly to do with drugs, had to do with how me liked to fly and how he was taught to fly.

It could have been a combination of both. Maybe if he hadn't been so strung out, he might have recovered before hitting the water. Although you could say his reckless attitude caused both the dangerous flying and his drug use.

[PilotDAR]

Hopefully, the primary takeaway message for newer pilots here is don't aggressively maneuver your aircraft close to the surface, you can loose reference, even in nice flying conditions, and won't have the reference, nor time to recover. The avoidance of drugs and alcohol should be self evident!