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Re: First few years pay

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$3395 per month by my calculation. Minus whatever union dues are.
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Re: First few years pay

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First paycheque after tax and deductions is $2100, while the second one has your per diems on it, and is usually around 2200 ($1400 without PDs).
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Edit, double post.
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dashtrash1 wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:49 am First paycheque after tax and deductions is $2100, while the second one has your per diems on it, and is usually around 2200 ($1400 without PDs).
Thanks for that, just want to make sure, is that with max contribution to DC pension plan?
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Jimmy_Hoffa wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:51 pm
And this is why we end up with a contract that passes with such a narrow margin. Very few hired in the last few years actually know what is in the contract or what has changed or care to actually read it.

Mainline:
First 4 years, guaranteed 75 hours / month first 4 years. Blocks may be higher (DBM).
OT. Straight time up to DBM, then 1.5x if you list your self. 1.5X if they call you unsolicited.
Over 85hrs attracts a 50% premium including block growth. If you are on OT its 1.5x +0.5x = 2.0x

Rouge
77.5 hours guarented
OT. List and called withing 48hours = 1.5x, unsolicited = 2.5x
anything over 82.5 attracts an additional 0.5x (ie. 1.5x+0.5x or 2.5x+0.5x)

As of April 2018

Yr 1- $58.88
Yr 2- $64.38
Yr 3- $73.37
Yr 4- $82.16

Thanks for the correction Jimmy, didn’t know the new contract had that much of a change.
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Thanks for that, just want to make sure, is that with max contribution to DC pension plan?
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That was my most recent pay with the TBP plan, which has a fixed contribution rate. I'm not involved in the ESOP.
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dashtrash1 wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:49 am First paycheque after tax and deductions is $2100, while the second one has your per diems on it, and is usually around 2200 ($1400 without PDs).
:shock:
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Panama Jack wrote: Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:26 am
dashtrash1 wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:49 am First paycheque after tax and deductions is $2100, while the second one has your per diems on it, and is usually around 2200 ($1400 without PDs).
:shock:
Tranquilo Panama. You get two pay checks per month. One on the first (which is technically an advance) and one on the 17th.
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Re: First few years pay

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2017 shows $75k.
25% year 1, 75% year 2 on flat pay on narrow body.
Flew a bit of overtime every other month. Could have easily done another 10k.
Sorted out pension in fall 2017 contract agreement was a huge relief for the long term.

Awesome awesome job, simply put.
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Re: First few years pay

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Is there much opportunity for Over Time? Do you bid for it? Or do they just call you from time to time and ask if your interested?

Getting by on what is effectively 54k for the first 12 months is going to be a serious challenge to say the least....

By the way, I appreciate that it may vary from type to type, what's the average salary at year 5?

Thanks!
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Anybody at AC working side jobs on their time off? Does AC allow it?
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I work as a psychiatrist for the flight attendants listening to all of life's problems. Unfortunately it is an unpaid position.
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:lol:
Victory wrote: Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:54 am I work as a psychiatrist for the flight attendants listening to all of life's problems. Unfortunately it is an unpaid position.
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TheRealMcCoy wrote: Sun Sep 09, 2018 4:14 pm Anybody at AC working side jobs on their time off? Does AC allow it?
Really?

You can't deal with 54k for a year? Many Canadians get by on much less.

You're better off being available for overtime if you want it.
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Absolutely. I'm not a fan of max OT, you need your time off.

But being available one or two trips every few months on OT, or a sim seat fill... will likely pay you more than any side job and take less effort to see you through the lean years... At time and a half or double time, and pensionable, it adds up...
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altiplano wrote: Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:13 am Absolutely. I'm not a fan of max OT, you need your time off.

But being available one or two trips every few months on OT, or a sim seat fill... will likely pay you more than any side job and take less effort to see you through the lean years... At time and a half or double time, and pensionable, it adds up...
Yeah, sorry... to clarify I agree. I usually take two, maybe three days a month and they're usually easy single turns.

But yes, even at only a few days a month you'll make more than any side job and work less days to make a comparable dollar amount.
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Re: First few years pay

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Lightchop wrote: Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:58 amReally?

You can't deal with 54k for a year? Many Canadians get by on much less.

You're better off being available for overtime if you want it.
That's sweet, good to know I can get by on less! I had no clue about that!

Maybe I just enjoy doing other things as well?
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Re: First few years pay

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Consumers... :roll:

lol...
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altiplano wrote: Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:40 pm Consumers... :roll:

lol...
Exactly.

Adjust your spending habits for a year or two.
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Re: First few years pay

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It's a little older but just a sheet for the narrow body AC Airbus vs 737 WJ and includes some additional info i.e. pension - I can't remember where I pulled it from but I've got every aircraft comparison between AC and WJ - sorry I can't recall who to give credit to for the information.
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