I'm not with Swoop but my interest is more as both a Westjetter and stockholder.saltypilot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:30 amBoney, what position do you hold with Swoop? Second, If you’re so flush with applications at Woops then why does your post smell of desperation? “We have lots of interest and applications at Swoop”??? Then you go on and lock down all those outstanding new Woopsters. I find your strategy of “get in before all the juniors take your rightful spots” to be ignorant and self serving. Everyone involved in this should be ashamed of themselves. But who cares right. You’re taken care of so what odds about the rest right.Boney wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:01 am There have been a lot of interest and applications at Swoop, even with ALPA's black list. Many think that since there is no contract, as yet, with WJA, Swoop will end up in contract talks, and ALPA in their desire to get a CBA, which ALPA needs badly, aka dues, they will lift this black list. Better to join now and get the left seat sooner rather than later.
Encore got their conditions improved after they started. The same will happen at Swoop when they prove themselves.
ALPA could have been up front at the table, with our own pilots, but choose to fight vs collaborate. I know, I know, salaries are below the current pay scale for WJA NG. The target pilots would have been junior F/O's and Encore Capt's whose current pay is below the starting pay at Swoop. Now, with pilots off the street, our own F/O's and Encore capt's may have lost out on an upgrade, and not accruing Capt's YOS. If we could get a one list with Swoop, like Encore, that YOS will follow back to mainline. Those that took up the 2 year LOA have at least ensured that.
Interesting times ahead.
Strategy. Buy when bullets fly. The Black list will be part of the upcoming negotiation and will end up lifted. Better get a good seat before the music stops.
No matter how much one screams at the top of their voice against corporate greed, they will do what's in the best interest of the corporation. I would say its shameful that ALPA choose to fight. Maybe they could have made positive changes before Swoop was rolled out. The WJPA did with Encore and with the bases. It may not have been acceptable to you, but what did roll out as well as after they rolled out did in fact improve on what was initially proposed. ALPA should be ashamed with themselves for not being at the table.
Like I said, interesting times ahead.