Who cares about GWB, we have our own problems

[Floats]

I can't believe how obsessed you guys are with GWB. Yes he has many faults, but also some good qualities. He is a terrible speaker, but he is a good leader, and what I mean by good leader is someone who makes decisions and within reason sticks by them whether you agree with him or not. But this is not my point.

This brings me to my point. This Country is fucked up!!!!! We have a leader in Paul Martin who has changed his stance so many times; I don't know what he stands for, other than getting elected by any means possible.
We have a government that has wasted billions of dollars of "OUR" hard earned money. Think of that the next time you look at your pay stub.

This government has everyone brainwashed that a surplus is a sign of govt fiscal responsibility. When he brings in 5 billion surpluses, there is numerous problems with this. 1. Where as if the government had reduced waste, that surplus would be closer to 10 Billion 2. A reduction in taxes would see that money stay in the wallets of taxpayers which would lead to increased consumer spending and economic growth. 3. What I can’t figure out, for all these years of surplus, why is Healthcare in such a mess, why is our military falling apart, why do we have a immigration system with more holes in it than Swiss cheese, why are we falling behind the rest of the world in education, why is our Cities crumbling with outdated infrastructure, why do we continue to hold onto old, outdated and unworkable policies such as the Indian Act. Why?

Why after 12 years of Liberal government, are things so messed up?

I am both fiscally and socially conservative, I am not religious, and I don’t go to church, yet I get branded as a religious fanatic, or I love hearing that Harper is controlled by them.

Floats

[hz2p]

It's easier for people here to throw rocks at other countries, instead of solving our own problems.

Hence the phrase, "smug Canadians".

[hazatude]

Write in for Haza to lead Canada out from under socialist oppression.

Follow me, people of Canada.

[Ender]

Please explain to me the wonderful job Conservatives have done with the economy in the past. How do you feel about Harris?

And no, I don't think McGuinty or Martin are anything to be proud of.

And please don't use Alberta as an example. Their economy is based on the second largest oil reserves in the world; anyone would be able to make that work.

Canada suffers from the same problem as the United States: two parties to choose from (essentially), both of which are so tied-in to big business and cronyism that they are unable to develop truly moral policy.

The pre-occupation with GWB is that he is making immense decisions that ultimately affect every citizen on Earth, and he consistantly takes the wrong, most offensive route.

How have the Republicans helped the US economy? The funny thing is, although the Democrats are as much a bunch of slimy bastards as the Republicans (for the most part), they actually have the healthier fiscal policy. Go figure...

You complain that our infrastructure is falling apart, then you ask for tax cuts. Logic, please? Do you believe that a conservative government would actually spend your money better? How come Alberta is moving steadily towards privatized health care? Don't they have enough money to go around?

Have you ever thought about the fact that your conservative pals in big business may have something to do with the faltering of our infrastructure? How does shutting down a plant with 20,000 employees and moving it to China help our numbers? (I sure understand how it helps THEIR numbers.) All of a sudden, a big chunk of middle class taxes have stopped pouring into the coffers. Now there's 20,000 unemployed people looking for EI and eventually Welfare. Where would you like them to work now? Joe Johnston has been working a graduated punch-press for the last 15 years making bumpers. What are his qualifications? Perhaps Tim Horton's will take him in part-time and pay him $1,200 a month.

As manufacturing disappears from the stage, what are all these unskilled, unemployed people going to do? Have you seriously thought about that? Do you have any idea of the burden that will place on our economy?

Oh, I forgot. This is all the unions' fault. Right?

The only solution to this situation is for the consumer to boycott goods manufactured overseas and for government to develop policies and tax penalties that reward companies that stay put, and severely penalize those that ship out. And stop shopping at Walmart!!! 80% of their goods are produced in China.

Back to the original post:

This is truly not a question of liberal versus conservative. It is a question of integrity, and neither party displays much of it when they hold the big stick.

[hz2p]

Ender: let me guess, you're a big fan of BUZZ Hargrove, right?

If you're so dumb that you don't understand why plants are closing in Canada, get an introductory economics textbook.

Oh, I forgot. Lefties don't "believe" in economic and finance theory. Spawn of the devil and all that

[Ender]

That's your reply?

[goates]

And please don't use Alberta as an example. Their economy is based on the second largest oil reserves in the world; anyone would be able to make that work.

Anyone can make it work, but anyone could screw it up too. BC has plenty of resources, including oil, but is still getting over the NDP government's screw ups.

Have you ever thought about the fact that your conservative pals in big business may have something to do with the faltering of our infrastructure? How does shutting down a plant with 20,000 employees and moving it to China help our numbers? (I sure understand how it helps THEIR numbers.) All of a sudden, a big chunk of middle class taxes have stopped pouring into the coffers. Now there's 20,000 unemployed people looking for EI and eventually Welfare. Where would you like them to work now? Joe Johnston has been working a graduated punch-press for the last 15 years making bumpers. What are his qualifications? Perhaps Tim Horton's will take him in part-time and pay him $1,200 a month.

As manufacturing disappears from the stage, what are all these unskilled, unemployed people going to do? Have you seriously thought about that? Do you have any idea of the burden that will place on our economy?

Oh, I forgot. This is all the unions' fault. Right?

The only solution to this situation is for the consumer to boycott goods manufactured overseas and for government to develop policies and tax penalties that reward companies that stay put, and severely penalize those that ship out. And stop shopping at Walmart!!! 80% of their goods are produced in China.

You mean protectionist policies like those the US uses to protect it's industries? Do you really think the US blocked our cattle just because of Mad Cow disease? How about the softwood lumber? These policies are a step in the wrong direction.

A big part of the problem here is that it costs more to manufacturer goods here. This cost is then passed on to consumers who then decide if they want to pay that much. As has been shown, if there is a cheaper alternative, they will take it. So if the company doesn't move it's manufacturing offshore to be competitive, it will go out of business anyways.

Part of it is due to some unions demanding more money, but most of it is just due to our labour laws that set minimum wages etc. Unless you want to get into subsidizing manufacturing, or can convince consumers to buy Canadian made goods, there isn't much you can do. You would also need to kick out companies like Walmart to prevent them from undercutting our market, but that would probably break NAFTA and other trade agreements.

While the workers out of a job are in a tough spot, we should be moving our economy to more high tech industries that require better educated people. Give them loans to go back to school (and then write the loan off) to learn something new. Throw in larger tax breaks for students to help out. Don't try to keep an industry going just because people will be out of work.

[Ender]

See hz2p? That's how to form a rebuttal. By the way, have you done your homework yet?

[hazatude]

So only two people are going to spoil their ballot and write me in?

[Siddley Hawker]

I think we should make over the entire country. I vote for Hazatude for exalted leader, keeper of the faith, grand poobah, maximum plenipotentiary and keeper of the black rod.

Now haz, we need a new national anthem to go with that. I suggest the O Canada words with the Russian music:

O Canadaski, we stand on guardski,
We stand on guardski, on guardski for theeeee....

After that we need an airline and a beer. We can't be a real country without an airline and a beer. How does Hazabeer sound? As maximum leader you could call it anything you damn well please, of course.

Gotta rename the money too. No more of that loony, toonie crap. A dollar will be called a "piasse" which will keep Quebecers happy because that's whats it's called down here anyway.

As far as laws are concerned, the death penalty should be re-instated for assholes who run red lights or drive less than 120 klicks in the left lane.

Whaddya think? Are we off to a good start, err wha???

[FREEFALL]

I got your back Haz. I really think you could turn this country around. I just need to know 2 things:

1. What are you views on gun control and marijauana?


2. Do you believe that economic growth is the responsibility of the government or the people?

[hazatude]

1. What are you views on gun control and marijauana?

Legalize the weed and arm every responsible citizen. Considering there are more good people than bad people...everything should work out for the best.

2. Do you believe that economic growth is the responsibility of the government or the people?

Economic growth is the responsibility of the people assisted by the government. Tax breaks for job creation and the institution of fair trade with other countries would be a start.

[CID]

Ender,

Excellent post. I couldn't have said it better myself!

Ender: let me guess, you're a big fan of BUZZ Hargrove, right?

I can't speak for Ender, but in my opinion Buzz Hargrove is slime. And not the good kind that Ducks draw nourishment from. Toxic useless slime.

[marktheone]

I cringe to say it but.....Haz you got my vote.

[hazatude]

I promise to outlaw training bonds and decree Pilots an essential service.

I promise to have M. LeBlanc hanged on national TV

[Guido]

I promise to outlaw training bonds and decree Pilots an essential service.

I promise to have M. LeBlanc hanged on national TV

1. So we can't strike? Thanks, dude.

2. Right on

[hazatude]

1. So we can't strike? Thanks, dude.


No. But you would be governed by me and me only. That means big $$ for anyone with a CPL and a job.

[costermonger]

Does it have to be a flying job to collect or is it a privilege of holding a CPL?

[Scuba_Steve]

I believe in the forming of a new party, called the 'Reality party' we take the best of the right wing Liberals, and the best of the left wing conservatives, combine them all into 1 party, then make cronyism, coruption and lying a capital offense. there is my idea party..you'll notice there are no NDP'ers in that party. Jack can have his left wing nutjobs all to himself.

And sure, Haz can run it, especuially if he hangs Michelle leblanc, AND David miller..

[hazatude]

I'll bring back the fraternity in aviation!

[Cat Driver]

I vote for Haz.

Cat

[hazatude]

Thanks Cat. That's like having the endorsement of Jesus himself!

[Dust Devil]

Cat says Haz is right on!

[hazatude]

Buddy Jesus is behind me now...I can't lose!

[mellow_pilot]

I would offer my support, but I don't pull much weight... mainly cause I'm lazy and pulling weights around is for convicts.