Huge discouragement

[Roadrunnersmother]

Networking is the key. We have hired several sub-300-hour guys. A few directly into jets. These people came with incredible character references, which means more than the logbook to me.

Cheers

Good luck!

Sorry I don't kiss backsides to get ahead. It's morally wrong in my opinion. My beliefs such as that one should not prevent one from an Airline position.

[digits_]

Networking is the key. We have hired several sub-300-hour guys. A few directly into jets. These people came with incredible character references, which means more than the logbook to me.

Cheers

Good luck!

Sorry I don't kiss backsides to get ahead. It's morally wrong in my opinion. My beliefs such as that one should not prevent one from an Airline position.

Networking is different from kissing backsides.

But hey, it's your life, act as you please. If what you are doing is working for you, great. If not, you might consider changing what you are doing. Good luck!

[TheRealMcCoy]

Sorry I don't kiss backsides to get ahead. It's morally wrong in my opinion. My beliefs such as that one should not prevent one from an Airline position.

Gotta do what you gotta do sometimes.

I paid a couple hundred dollars for Pilot Career Center to produce a Cover Letter and Resume. I suspect it's up to standards.

I got my foot in the door sending off a year old resume that I didn't even change the date on... You're doing something wrong bruh.

[Roadrunnersmother]

Sorry I don't kiss backsides to get ahead. It's morally wrong in my opinion. My beliefs such as that one should not prevent one from an Airline position.

Gotta do what you gotta do sometimes.

I paid a couple hundred dollars for Pilot Career Center to produce a Cover Letter and Resume. I suspect it's up to standards.

I got my foot in the door sending off a year old resume that I didn't even change the date on... You're doing something wrong bruh.

Which Airline?

[Diadem]

I have applied and didn't receive a job offer, you haven't, i'm very familiar with whether they are hiring Canadians or not.

So because they didn't hire you, they're not hiring any Canadians? You're the ultimate manifestation of the Canadian pilot, and if they won't hire you they won't hire anyone? That's rather narcissistic, wouldn't you say?

[Roadrunnersmother]

I have applied and didn't receive a job offer, you haven't, i'm very familiar with whether they are hiring Canadians or not.

So because they didn't hire you, they're not hiring any Canadians? You're the ultimate manifestation of the Canadian pilot, and if they won't hire you they won't hire anyone? That's rather narcissistic, wouldn't you say?

Last fall they were hiring from India and Mexico. I'm canadian and wasn't hired. I'm more qualified than the applicants from India and Mexico but would be paid more.
EVAS is morally wrong by not hiring Canadians first.

[Diadem]

Last fall they were hiring from India and Mexico. I'm canadian and wasn't hired. I'm more qualified than the applicants from India and Mexico but would be paid more.
EVAS is morally wrong by not hiring Canadians first.

Are you talking about those poorly-photoshopped pictures that might not have been made by the company, and probably didn't result in anyone being hired? If I recall correctly, they were supposedly advertising to ab initio students to get their licences with GFT, become instructors, and eventually get on the 1900. You wouldn't have been competing with those applicants, even if the ads were real.
Were you applying as a first officer? Because someone with 5000 hours applying to be a 1900 FO in this market would certainly raise some red flags.

[Roadrunnersmother]

Last fall they were hiring from India and Mexico. I'm canadian and wasn't hired. I'm more qualified than the applicants from India and Mexico but would be paid more.
EVAS is morally wrong by not hiring Canadians first.

Are you talking about those poorly-photoshopped pictures that might not have been made by the company, and probably didn't result in anyone being hired? If I recall correctly, they were supposedly advertising to ab initio students to get their licences with GFT, become instructors, and eventually get on the 1900. You wouldn't have been competing with those applicants, even if the ads were real.
Were you applying as a first officer? Because someone with 5000 hours applying to be a 1900 FO in this market would certainly raise some red flags.

Yes for First Officer 1900.
Raise red flags? Why? I have 0 hours on B1900.

[altiplano]

I paid a couple hundred dollars for Pilot Career Center to produce a Cover Letter and Resume. I suspect it's up to standards.

LOL... I saw a couple of those and they were pretty uninspiring, in my opinion... certainly nothing groundbreaking and the formatting lacked. Save your money

[DanWEC]

Yes for First Officer 1900.
Raise red flags? Why? I have 0 hours on B1900.

Well, that and you don't exist, so there's that....

[Roadrunnersmother]

Yes for First Officer 1900.
Raise red flags? Why? I have 0 hours on B1900.

Well, that and you don't exist, so there's that....

Didn't your mother teach you to say nothing if you have nothing good to say.

[DanWEC]

Yes, right up there with "Son, don't troll people on the internet".

[TheRealMcCoy]

Which Airline?

Air Canada. Went to flight school, got a degree, then took a few years off and worked in the oil patch, did some geo technical drilling, drove truck a bit and then sent em a resume and got in!

[Roadrunnersmother]

Which Airline?

Air Canada. Went to flight school, got a degree, then took a few years off and worked in the oil patch, did some geo technical drilling, drove truck a bit and then sent em a resume and got in!

I will apply but likely waste of time.
If I can't get offered an FO position at EVAS or Air Georgian on 1900 I highly doubt AC will put me on a jet.

[cdnpilot77]

Networking is the key. We have hired several sub-300-hour guys. A few directly into jets. These people came with incredible character references, which means more than the logbook to me.

Cheers

Good luck!

What he said!

[cdnpilot77]

But this:

Sorry I don't kiss backsides to get ahead. It's morally wrong in my opinion. My beliefs such as that one should not prevent one from an Airline position.

just shows a complete lack of understanding of people. Roadrunnersmother, Your words are remarkably similar to a "King Air pilot" a year or 2 ago who had the exact same issues and responses

[schnitzel2k3]

Hey everyone,

My discouragement right now is below the floor. I know all of us, new pilots with 250 hours struggle a lot but I didn't think it would so be hard.
I finished school in September and began my search for my first flying job in December. I have sent over 150 resumes to all possible 702/703 operators in Canada. I am 100% willing to move and still nothing. Absolutely nothing. I tried 95% of the skydiving operators but most of them require minimum 300 hours and
25 hours on type which they mostly use a c185.
I haven't even been offered a ramp position....not that I would take it because I believe and still have high hopes of landing my first job flying but man this is crazy.
I have seen quite a bit of ads for float positions but I don't have my float rating and a lot of them require minimum 50 hours on floats.
I don't know what else to do

Sometimes carpet bombing the industry with a generic 250 hour resume doesn't help.

Have someone take a peek at your resume and cover letter. In this section, xsbank has posted resume help sticky.

Highly suggest, pick 3 of your top operations, reach out as best as you can (LinkedIn, phone, etc), get a line of communication going, then jump in the car and go out to shake hands, with a fresh personalized resume.

Good luck bud,

S.

[schnitzel2k3]

Networking is the key. We have hired several sub-300-hour guys. A few directly into jets. These people came with incredible character references, which means more than the logbook to me.

Cheers

Good luck!

+1 to this.

[Roadrunnersmother]

But this:

Sorry I don't kiss backsides to get ahead. It's morally wrong in my opinion. My beliefs such as that one should not prevent one from an Airline position.

just shows a complete lack of understanding of people. Roadrunnersmother, Your words are remarkably similar to a "King Air pilot" a year or 2 ago who had the exact same issues and responses

Did they end up with Airline position?
Likely I'm not the only candidate in the same boat.
Instead of trashing me, words of wisdom would be more useful.

[cdnpilot77]

I am not trashing you. You have been given good advice above and when that same advice was given before to the same question, the exact same response was given. There is work that needs to be done to move forward. Networking is not ass kissing. Learn the difference and it will be the key to unlocking your dilemma. Or keep trolling