Air Canada tailstrike in Hong Kong
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Air Canada tailstrike in Hong Kong
Hearing word that AC has a tailstrike in HKG. The return flight AC 016 is cancelled. More to come.
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Just saw this on Tom Podolec’s twitter feed.
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And you'll release the aircraft back to service after you "buff that out"? I expect that Air Canada will assure a proper proper repair.That'll buff right out
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Possibly because it stopped being funny when it was posted for the 578th time.
Anybody know the aircraft type? 777-300 series?
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I detected the attempt at sarcasm....Oh my, the sarcasm was lost here.
This.Possibly because it stopped being funny when it was posted for the 578th time
When you're looking at some scrape damage you've done, it won't seem so funny. No one takes off planning to damage an aircraft, sometimes we do our best, and it doesn't work out the way we planned. Sarcasm really does not contribute to the better outcome.
Each time I've scraped something down the runway (beginning with a tail tiedown ring on a 172, when I was a student) I apologized, and did what I could to make it right. In 1977 at Brampton, a replacement tail tiedown ring cost $31 (which was more than I paid for an hour's use of the plane at the time!).
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Link and pictures here....
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=219351
777-300ER on landing. Newer ones and 787 have tailstrike protection software in the fly by wire system. Old ones don't. You can tell this is an old one as it has a tailskid installed which is no longer necessary in the new ones. Tailstrike protection also saves weight with removal of the tailskid and the beefed up structure.
Holding off in the flare can cause a tailstrike on landing. A senior AC guy in the know told me about that happening to one of their 767's years ago.
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=219351
777-300ER on landing. Newer ones and 787 have tailstrike protection software in the fly by wire system. Old ones don't. You can tell this is an old one as it has a tailskid installed which is no longer necessary in the new ones. Tailstrike protection also saves weight with removal of the tailskid and the beefed up structure.
Holding off in the flare can cause a tailstrike on landing. A senior AC guy in the know told me about that happening to one of their 767's years ago.
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The most common cause is an improper recovery from a bounced landing.Holding off in the flare can cause a tailstrike on landing. A senior AC guy in the know told me about that happening to one of their 767's years ago.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuAtO4MZtqECapt. Underpants wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:37 am The most common cause is an improper recovery from a bounced landing.
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I do believe JAL123 perished under similar circumstances.
Geez did I say that....? Or just think it....?
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Landed on 07R with a 15 knot N wind. This scenario in HK is well known for low level windshear. Could have been a factor. Having said that, the Triple, unlike the 330, lands pretty flat and isn't known for being prone to tailstrikes. Looks like that bird airn't going anywhere for a while though.
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That's not correct - airport briefing says winds over 20 knots from the N will potentially cause problems. And then for approach 25l/R and Missed approach/Departure 07L/R.sportingrifle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:44 pm Landed on 07R with a 15 knot N wind. This scenario in HK is well known for low level windshear. Could have been a factor.
Always fly a stable approach - it's the only stability you'll find in this business
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Eric...past experience has shown me that it doesn't take 20 knots to find localised bad air. 20 knots to trigger a windshear alert perhaps. The Cathay guys were speculating on this as a " link in the chain. " Anyway when the report comes out we will know. Cheers SR.
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'Don't worry about the 777 F/O vacancies. We'll just stick junior pilots in there.'
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I believe you will find that for 07’s at HKG that the terrain is not particularly close on the north side, from a Hong Kong perspective that is. But....one never knows when it comes to mountainous terrain.
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