CNC3 Hangar Fire

[photofly]

If I understand the report correctly, this pilot was using a naked flame nearby? Not doing that, is probably a good place to start.

Other than that, it’s hard to know. Fuelling and defuelling either works 100% safely or ends in disaster, so it’s hard to tune one’s technique. Grounding appropriate metal parts, and having a fire extinguisher nearby suitable for fuel fires and knowing how to use it seem sensible precautions. Also if possible do it outdoors, to minimize damage in the event of a fire.

[trey kule]

To again stray offtopic.

Rookie. Pelmet is a pilot. An experienced one. Though that matters little as to the credability of the facts he presents.
I find his posts informative. I am acutely aware that the younger generation can only learn from accidents where the blood is still fresh, but as there really are no new root causes of accidents we can learn just as well from older ones. And I think Pemet does a service by reviewing and posting them.

Now you. You come across as a braggart with adesparate need to impress strangers on the internet.

Now on to topic.
Sad, but it cant be undone.
Stupids everywhere , allthe time.sometimes in the mirror. Maybe in this case we could alltake a moment to remember in thefuture that when working around flamables, we should consider ignition sources.

[photofly]

To again stray offtopic....

Did you know you write with a deep bass-baritone voice? Strange.

[rookiepilot]

Pelmet is a pilot. An experienced one. Though that matters little as to the credability of the facts he presents.

Noted, TK. I happen to disagree with some of his conclusions.

When aircraft are mourned over at the same time life itself is commented on with cold and callous disregard, I will disagree.

If this is called trolling so be it.

Obviously I am in the minority on my feelings so I will let it be.

[digits_]

At least the silver lining is that we got rid of another navajo?

[AirFrame]

I suppose if you're talking about "stupidity" you could ask how "smart" it is to keep such a valuable collection in a building without a sprinkler or fire suppression system... But we digress again.

Photos from the incident were sent to everyone in our hangar complex with the reminder that if you're moving fuel from container to plane or back, to roll it out of the hangar first. Nobody intends to ignite anything, but as we can see, sh*t happens. Constrain it to your own aircraft when it does.

[PilotDAR]

I cross a bunch of timezones, and look what happens while I'm not watching, not only does a hangar burn down, but then the group tries to burn each other down in retaliation! What a sad loss at BFC, They'll recover, and to some degree, airplanes will be replaced. We don't have to replace any people, and a lesson has been retaught. As I firefighter, I have attended two fires started in the way described, incandescent bulbs should be a no no in inspection lights - that's a lesson... Hey, who here has actually extinguished a burning liquid fire with a hand held extinguisher?

[rookiepilot]

They'll recover, and to some degree, airplanes will be replaced. We don't have to replace any people, and a lesson has been retaught.

Couldn't agree more.

[rookiepilot]

This is the context; Pelmets Callous comments when not aircraft were destroyed, but 2 teenage students and a green instructor barely out his teens.


"As far as I'm concerned, this was a personal flight by the PIC with passengers that crashed. One of the passengers happened to be a student pilot.
Perhaps you should be sued by the flying club for defamation of character....unless other evidence comes to light."

"there are no shortage of bereaved families that have greedily gone after others when their loved one screwed up and crashed. Being bereaved does not justify creating more victims by suing innocent people"

"This is what pisses me off(along with the people that say I shouldn't complain because the poor family lost a loved one even though they are suing ). When someone decides to sue innocent people, I really don't care about your sadness and loss. It doesn't justify your greed.

I believe that the family needs to be told how incompetent their loved one was and made to pay our costs and maybe countersued to hurt them financially. And if that hurts them emotionally, too bad. I don't appreciate being sued for no good reason."


I still haven't figured out how those 2 teenage students screwed up in that one, and their families should be sued by Pelmet's friends.

This is real -- stupidity that dearly costs. Let's hope it's never Your child that dies. People's lives are more valuable than pieces of machinery, Pelmet.

[Victory]

not only does a hangar burn down, but then the group tries to burn each other down in retaliation!

Story on this? There is bad blood at BFC over this accident?

[PilotDAR]

There is bad blood at BFC over this accident?

People at BFC are pretty nice, I wouldn't think so, it appears to be a group here trying to burn each other down....

[pelmet]

There is bad blood at BFC over this accident?

People at BFC are pretty nice, I wouldn't think so, it appears to be a group here trying to burn each other down....

I'm trying to pass on how the fire was started and meanwhile another poster is determined to insult me because he is upset on how I debated him on another thread. This is not the first thread he has derailed. I suggest we all ignore and continue on subject. and the mods delete the above postings that are not on topic. Said poster can, as he has done on another forum more than once complain about me over there.

Message passed on to the mods as an example of how a troll can ruin a thread trying to prevent future disasters.

[rookiepilot]

Pelmet,

Go sue someone. Maybe this poor idiot who started the fire.

I'm sure it would give you great pleasure.


Have a lovely evening ---

[pelmet]

Pelmet,

Go sue someone. Maybe this poor idiot who started the fire.

I'm sure it would give you great pleasure.


Have a lovely evening ---

Once again mods, please ban this person as he refuses to stop trolling and is now talking gibberish.

[jakeandelwood]

That's the problem with these joined hangars, you never know what your neighbor is screwing with. I'm always carefull to make sure I unplug everything etc when I leave, I try to be conscious of others "pride and joys"

[cncpc]

Yeah, I am really revelling at this loss of historic aircraft and someone's lifetime collection. I would say that deep, deep frustration is more like it when something like this happens.

I happen to think the three young lives needlessly wasted in the St Catherine's club accident are infinitely more valuable than any aircraft. That accident is very frustrating to me, the pain of the loss is at a level that doesn't compare.

As shown by your callousness in your comments, you do not, and yeah that's deeply offensive to me.

I think you've confused us with people who give a @#$! what is offensive to you, chipmunk.

[cncpc]

Gee, I don't recall typing this...@#$!

[cncpc]

There is bad blood at BFC over this accident?

People at BFC are pretty nice, I wouldn't think so, it appears to be a group here trying to burn each other down....

I'm trying to pass on how the fire was started and meanwhile another poster is determined to insult me because he is upset on how I debated him on another thread.

That's what I was thinking...Pelmet must have handed this chirper his ass one or more times here on AvCanada.

If I recall, the chirper is a Trump supporter, no?

[phillyfan]

No wonder pilots never get laid.

[TeePeeCreeper]

No wonder pilots never get laid.

Speak for yourself!