Low Wing

XLR8 · Post by **XLR8** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 11:31 am

Is it possible to do all of your PPL and PPL flight test on a low wing ?

KAG · Post by **KAG** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 11:38 am

Low wing? as in a piper cherokee? of course you can.

cyyz · Post by **cyyz** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 12:58 pm

Spiral dive in an arrow? Interesting, I'd pass on that.

But as long as your plane is certified for all the exam criteria, spiral and unusual attitudes, spins(for the CPL) go for it.

Lastly remember it's a more complicated machine if you're comfortable with having extra work load(gears), more power, more emergencies, sure go for it.

Any particular reason why you'd rather do the low wing? Just for my own insight?

dont_snag_it · Post by **dont_snag_it** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 1:05 pm

Cherokee 140 Cruiser is the only Cherokee you can do your complete PPL training on. Warriors/Archers are not certified for spins.

Cherokees are nicer flying planes than C172s. The low wing offers greater visiblity especially turning final.

Phlyer · Post by **Phlyer** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 2:36 pm

LoadFactor2 wrote:Cherokees are nicer flying planes than C172s. The low wing offers greater visiblity especially turning final.

Except other times - like straight and level.

ahramin · Post by **ahramin** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 2:59 pm

cyyz wrote:But as long as your plane is certified for all the exam criteria, spiral and unusual attitudes, spins(for the CPL)

The aircraft must be able to do spins for the PPL flight test:

http://www.tc.gc.ca/civilaviation/gener ... P13723.PDF

Maybe you are thinking of the RPP?

shitdisturber · Post by **shitdisturber** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 3:16 pm

An aircraft certified for spins is no longer required for the PPL flight test; since spins have been removed from the test. However, you still have to have an aircraft certified for spins as they are still part of the required syllabus. So use a low wing for everything else and rent a 172 for the spins, no biggie.

As for the comment about doing spiral dives in an Arrow; try it, you'll like it!

ahramin · Post by **ahramin** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 3:20 pm

I guess i should not be surprised that the regulators do not have current publications.

When did this happen?

cyyz · Post by **cyyz** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 3:21 pm

*bows head in shame*

S.o.L on using most low wing aircraft..

Unless you do as it suggests. Provide two aircrafts, one for the spin and any other exercises, which you already knew..

Thanks Ahramin

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 4:36 pm

The early cherokees were certified for spins and the Tomahawk is certified for spins to name two low wing trainers.

In fact I had a Tomahawk in my school and preferred it to the Cessna 150.

Cat

XLR8 · Post by **XLR8** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 6:11 pm

Thanks guys knew I could count on ya for information. I'll pass it along .

shitdisturber · Post by **shitdisturber** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 6:44 pm

ahramin wrote:I guess i should not be surprised that the regulators do not have current publications.

When did this happen?

They don't have a current pub on that change? God I hope you're kidding since spins went out of the private ride something like two years ago.

chewsta · Post by **chewsta** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 6:55 pm

Katana is a beautiful low wing a/c certified for spins....

shitdisturber · Post by **shitdisturber** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 7:22 pm

chewsta wrote:Katana is a beautiful low wing a/c certified for spins....

If you want to ride in an aerial sperm cell, go nuts.

ahramin · Post by **ahramin** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 7:31 pm

And the best description of a Katana goes to ... SHITDISTURBER.

LOL. That was good.

But they do spin like crazy.

And as for the Flight Test Standards Guide for the PPL, i tried to find them but the only one i could find was for helicopter PPL, but when i clicked on it, it brought me to a list of all the FTSGs. The one i linked to was dated 2001 and i was not aware that changes had been made since. So i opened the mouth again and in went the foot.

There may be a current copy of the FTSG for the PPL lurking somewhere on the TC site, but i do not have the 10K years it would take me to find it.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 7:56 pm

When you get cross eyed trying to find your way around the TC site, read CAR's.....that will make you go blind.

shitdisturber · Post by **shitdisturber** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:24 pm

Cat Driver wrote:When you get cross eyed trying to find your way around the TC site, read CAR's.....that will make you go blind.

If you're going to go blind you might as well masturbate, at least you'll get some enjoyment out of it!

Shiny Side Up · Post by **Shiny Side Up** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 9:43 am

So that's why you're always complaining that your eyesight is getting worse.

shitdisturber · Post by **shitdisturber** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 9:59 am

Since when have I complained about that? I'm actually finding an advantage in it. If my eyesight deteriorates to a certain point, as long as I keep a reasonable distance from you, I won't be nauseated. violent flame

Shiny Side Up · Post by **Shiny Side Up** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 8:32 pm

So has it made you more nearsighted or farsighted?

shitdisturber · Post by **shitdisturber** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 9:32 am

Near sighted (scientific name myopia) - the inability to see ugly people from far away. bootyshake

Shiny Side Up · Post by **Shiny Side Up** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 11:01 am

Well try not to become too myopic today.

shitdisturber · Post by **shitdisturber** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 7:47 pm

Unfortunately I had to go hang out with an ugly person today.