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Once someone figures out the whole immigration thing, I think US companies will wipe out most of the Canadian industry. Here's a link to Mesa Airlines (United / American tier 2 operator). Highlights, up to $50k in joining bonuses, Upgrade in 14-22 months, $36USD/hr to start, defined career path, jet aircraft...

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http://www.mesa-air.com/Documents/Pilot ... 110218.pdf
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If you want to work in the US, Mesa should definitely not be your first choice.
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I've been hearing out the us border opening up yo Canadian pilots since 1995. Still waiting.
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Why not Mesa? Just curious. They have flow to United. Same with Envoy lower starting pay than some others but guaranteed flow to American (roughly 5 years they say right now)
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C-GGGQ wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:40 am Why not Mesa? Just curious. They have flow to United. Same with Envoy lower starting pay than some others but guaranteed flow to American (roughly 5 years they say right now)
They have a history of treating their pilots, and employees poorly. Many pilots have left there in a lateral move to Endeavour, SkyWest, etc.just to get out.
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Ah well, I suppose you can make anything look all sunshine and rainbows on a website/ social media page
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Just looked at the US immigration website. As far as I can surmise, unless you are a North American Indian, you don't qualify for a green card. That leaves sponsorship from a US spouse or family member, or sponsorship from an employer. Then wait 3-5 years as a legal resident before becoming a US citizen. Didn't see anything in the Mesa brochure about sponsorship.

Would be a nice option (sort of), but it seems a bit difficult for a Canadian to immigrate.

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You can work as soon as you get that green card. Who cares about citizenship. My brother has been down there 9 years+ now. Been on the green card the whole time no issues
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Canadians are not eligible for the green card lottery. Just checked. Just about everyone else is.

So that means your brother was sponsored by somebody, employer, spouse or family member?
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Father moved down with wife and two brothers. I however was no longer a minor and therefore not eligible.
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If they run out of pilots it'll be interesting to see if they try to use the special talent style visa to get people in. I don't think this will happen any time soon.

If you compare what the US regionals have on offer compared to the Canadian operators it seems they are taking a pilot shortage a little more seriously. Those are some pretty substantial incentives. There are even airline sponsored programs out there taking military helicopter drivers and converting them over to fixed-wing multi guys to fill seats.

Time will tell how bad the shortage actually is. Are there any Canadian operators dropping flights due to crewing? I know Emirates has airplanes parked due to lack of bodies.
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In my previous career (software engineering) there were always recruiters messaging me for opportunities in the States. It seems they have no problem sponsoring engineers for visas as there is a shortage. Hopefully pilots get added to that list in the near future.
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Don’t let those bonuses fool you. Jazz is the best regional airline in North America. I know this to be true because all the Jazz guys on avCanada tell me so.
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FedEx will soon start furloughing flight crews.
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Roadrunnersmother wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:40 pm FedEx will soon start furloughing flight crews.
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Boreas wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:26 pm
Roadrunnersmother wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:40 pm FedEx will soon start furloughing flight crews.
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Company's last 2 quarterly statements said slowing global demand for shipments. Less shipping very likely means fewer aircraft needed.
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Roadrunnersmother wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:55 pm
Boreas wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:26 pm
Roadrunnersmother wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:40 pm FedEx will soon start furloughing flight crews.
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Company's last 2 quarterly statements said slowing global demand for shipments. Less shipping very likely means fewer aircraft needed.
Ahh so you're inferring. Fair enough.
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Global shipping slowing? Not on this planet.

Reasons for FedEx's revenue issues are because of Amazon Air.
From what I've read, conditions and salaries are substandard at Amazon/Atlas, which supports their undercutting. I have no sources other than articles however.
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A little info on the conditions at Amazon/ Atlas

https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon- ... ues-2019-2
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George Taylor wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:02 am A little info on the conditions at Amazon/ Atlas

https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon- ... ues-2019-2

I saw some of those.

Also what's incredible is that their "substandard wages" are better than ours in general.
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