King Air at Gillam, MB

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Re: King Air at Gillam, MB

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MUSKEG wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:51 pm In my opinion If it was fuel contamination it would happen much earlier in the flight. How long is the flight from Iqaluit to Gilliam ? 2 hrs ??
Not necessarily, could be certain fuel tanks that were affected.
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Re: King Air at Gillam, MB

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Except on a King Air, you transfer the aux fuel into the mains as there's room to accept it. By landing time, they'd long since have emptied the aux tanks and be running on the main tanks. Fuel would have been mixed long ago.

It will be interesting to see what the real investigators discover.
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mmm..bacon wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:00 pm Three major possibilities for a dual failure...
1.)mechanical issues with both engines at the same time (Highly unlikely)
2.) Fuel contamination
3.)Too much Air in the tanks.

To be fair to my fellow aviators, I’d be betting on #2.

Correct that it doesn’t look good for a RFP bid..
4th possibility is single engine failure compounded when you shut down the wrong engine
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Re: King Air at Gillam, MB

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Ran out of petrol and haven’t got the nads to admit.....oh wait, TSB hasn’t had their say. Check the uplift......,only ONE way I know of to have two PT6’s calve at the same time. Ya gots to feed ‘em.
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Re: King Air at Gillam, MB

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We must wait for the TSB to figure out why they crashed and that could take years.

In the mean time we must not even think about what could have caused it.
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Re: King Air at Gillam, MB

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Anyone know the registration of it?
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Re: King Air at Gillam, MB

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You guys all know what this means right???
There is now a Gimli glider and a Gillem glider!

I will now continue to confuse the two towns names forever...
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Re: King Air at Gillam, MB

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JoeShmoe wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:55 pm You guys all know what this means right???
There is now a Gimli glider and a Gillem glider!

I will now continue to confuse the two towns names forever...
It's easy to remember. Gillam is the one with the smooth runway.
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Re: King Air at Gillam, MB

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FICU wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:01 pm Anyone know the registration of it?
By the above photo, high float landing gear, wing lockers, and 3-bladed props?

That’s gotta be FRMV...
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Re: King Air at Gillam, MB

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All Canadian runways should start under a lake, so that a failed landing can result in a soft landing howbeit wet one!
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Re: King Air at Gillam, MB

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Very lucky crew. From the info I’ve been told it’s looking like a fuel issue, and not quality but quantity...
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greygoose wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:00 pm Very lucky crew. From the info I’ve been told it’s looking like a fuel issue, and not quality but quantity...
How's that possible? Full mains is plenty for Winnipeg to Churchill.
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Re: King Air at Gillam, MB

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Roadrunnersmother wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:23 pm
greygoose wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:00 pm Very lucky crew. From the info I’ve been told it’s looking like a fuel issue, and not quality but quantity...
How's that possible? Full mains is plenty for Winnipeg to Churchill.

Um...perhaps if the mains were not filled?!?! Some of the people who I’ve chatted with said a couple other aircraft heard a low fuel emergency was declared at some point before bouncing it off the lake.
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Re: King Air at Gillam, MB

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greygoose wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:28 pm
Roadrunnersmother wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:23 pm
greygoose wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:00 pm Very lucky crew. From the info I’ve been told it’s looking like a fuel issue, and not quality but quantity...
How's that possible? Full mains is plenty for Winnipeg to Churchill.

Um...perhaps if the mains were not filled?!?! Some of the people who I’ve chatted with said a couple other aircraft heard a low fuel emergency was declared at some point before bouncing it off the lake.
My God how much competance does it take to order full mains in Winnipeg, one pilot watch the fuel person fill the mains and if they didn't bother doing that, look at the fuel gauges when called on the checklist.

Running out of fuel doesn't seem real.
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Re: King Air at Gillam, MB

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PostmasterGeneral wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:22 pm By the above photo, high float landing gear, wing lockers, and 3-bladed props?

That’s gotta be FRMV...
Thanks... I have a lot of time in CGT and ZPW from 15 years ago. Tough to see that happen to a company I spent over 6 years at.
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No CADORS?
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Re: King Air at Gillam, MB

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Roadrunnersmother wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:23 pm
greygoose wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:00 pm Very lucky crew. From the info I’ve been told it’s looking like a fuel issue, and not quality but quantity...
How's that possible? Full mains is plenty for Winnipeg to Churchill.
Was that the route? I thought it was a flight from somewhere in Nunavut to Winnipeg.
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Re: King Air at Gillam, MB

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trey kule wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:22 pm No CADORS?
Accidents usually take a little longer because the narrative is a little more involved.
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Re: King Air at Gillam, MB

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I wonder if there’s any connection?
http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewtop ... 31715
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